Dodge Challenger Wheels

I have to chime in here, as I've seen this debate / misinformation elsewhere. I have a 2010 Challenger at home and several new Chargers at work. The new cars use the Mercedes bolt pattern (always have) and it is ever so slightly off from the 5x4.5 bolt pattern. I'm refraining from stating the mm sizes because I forget what they are at the moment. However, the sizes referenced above sound about right.

With that said, the new wheels WILL "slide on" the older bolt circle, but it doesn't fit exact, like a wheel SHOULD fit. You can get it to go on and you can bolt it up, but you will be forcing (bending) the wheel studs to do so when you tighten the lugs.

I've seen them used on old Mopars every once in a while, but in my view, it is dangerous to do so. Plus, yes, the backspacing is wacky when used on the old cars. I saw some new Charger wheels on an old Road Runner and it looked funky IMO.

OK, I feel better now. :)

But they don't match the Merc pattern. If you take one of your wheels down to a shop and actually have it measured, you will find that they are 114.3mm/4.5". I've physically measured one because I got tired of the back and forth and mis-information. The wheel shops (TireRack, etc.) show 115mm (the Mercedes pattern), but the parts places show 4.5" on the brake parts. I got tired of it and actually checked it myself. Not by putting on on a car and trusting my eyes, but by using a gauge that was designed for it. I just saw a bunch of posts on Challenger websites talking about how it's 115mm and it's not.

http://www.forabodiesonly.com/mopar/showpost.php?p=928176&postcount=57

Please go measure one of your wheels (that's not a challenge). Take your spare to a shop and have them put a guage on it. I'd love to hear back, because I don't like wrong information and would like to know if I am wrong. Make sure they put a 115mm gauge on it and look at how it doesn't really fit, but how a 114.3mm/4.5" gauge fits very well. I'm asking sincerely, please try it.