Dodge Challenger Wheels

Sorry I dropped this, wasn't intentional.

I made up a little template and it seemed to work well, when it was a stud, but not so well on the end of a lug nut. Not enough to get a good reference and measure from.

I was hoping to try it out at a local car show, but only found one car to try and the guy was a jerk. Ended up stopping at the local Dodge dealer and trying to measure several cars. The only conclusion I came away with was that my little template wasn't good enough. Wasn't able to figure anything out, came up with some that I thought were 4.5, and others that looked to be 115mm. It was a worthless endeavor (other than absolutely falling in love with a dark Grey RT Challenger :-) ).

Spend several days looking on the internet, trying to find someone with some credentials to shed some light on this. Really like to find a factory blueprint showing what the intended dimensions are, rather than what I am measuring. Tried the Brembo website, they have some really detailed drawings of their rotors, and for the LC/LX/LY cars, they show 115mm. Found one guy claiming to be Boyd Coddington Jr (not that he isn't, just saying the anyone can claim anything they want on the internet), who posted that he worked for Weld Wheels and that it is definitely 115mm. But most everything I look at on RockAuto.com that shows bolt pattern info show 4.5".

All I know for certain is the steel wheels I measured myself where certainly 4.5". But there is too much mystery in regards to the bolt pattern, so I am hereby pulling my opinion. I don't know what it is, and am tired of thinking about it.

The really funny thing to me is, I don't even want to run the wheels. Mopar seems to have a problem with anything much over 7.5" in a 17" or 18" wheel, which is just too narrow for me. But I am interested in the truth, and thought I had a handle on this. I'm not convinced it isn't 4.5", but I can't find enough evidence to support it so I am dropping this into the "who-knows" pile.

I'm out.