Thanks Replicar, I appreciate the help....I actually plan on modifying them as soon as I pull them out of the Box.....Milling off the fins and logo,stripping off the Black paint and polishing the living crap out of them, then get them Clear Anodized to protect them. Here is the motor there going it's a work in progress but you'll get why they must be shiny. Sorry for the 4"x4" but the multi port Mod Man intake isn't here yet either