Would any of y'all recommened or use these on your own engine?

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This may sound like a dumb question, but for a mild 383, would you recommend these?

http://www.hughesengines.com/Index/...a2VyIEFybXMgJiBBY2Nlc3Nvcmllcw==&partid=27163

The biggest reason I ask is I've seen differing opinions on Hughes stuff. If I can make a guess, many are not pleased with their machine work or impressed by their customer service, but many recommend their parts. Just wanted to do a bit of a litmus test basically...
 
To answer your questions i see Hughes recommend quite bit here. I got to ask though why roller rockers and not the stock ones? A mild 383 you wouldnt get much benefit from them. Use that money towards other upgrades that give you more gain.
 
Hughes makes real good rockers. IMO the best rockers for the money. The Cryo treatment is a waste of money unless you running big RPM, 7000+ and /or big spring loads, 600#+.
 
To answer your questions i see Hughes recommend quite bit here. I got to ask though why roller rockers and not the stock ones? A mild 383 you wouldnt get much benefit from them. Use that money towards other upgrades that give you more gain.

You would be surprised what a set of correct rockers will do for a engine. What I mean by correct is all the rockers are the same ratio, unlike the stock ones which are all over the place. It will smooth out the power and it will run better all over the rpm range.

I had a customer running a 340 with stock rockers with a MP "508" cam. It ran good, but only pulled 4-5 inches of vacuum at idle and would max out at 6500rpm. We sold him a set of the Hughes rockers and he said it smoothed the idle a bit, was pulling 6-7 inches of vacuum and now pulls quite well to 7000rpm.
 
Might want to contact Terry, Demonseed....pretty sure he used them
 
You would be surprised what a set of correct rockers will do for a engine. What I mean by correct is all the rockers are the same ratio, unlike the stock ones which are all over the place. It will smooth out the power and it will run better all over the rpm range.

I had a customer running a 340 with stock rockers with a MP "508" cam. It ran good, but only pulled 4-5 inches of vacuum at idle and would max out at 6500rpm. We sold him a set of the Hughes rockers and he said it smoothed the idle a bit, was pulling 6-7 inches of vacuum and now pulls quite well to 7000rpm.


I did say much! Im assuming this is cruiser, occasional blast. For that there would be little benefit. Now if was a weekend warrior with track time and living 6k + would be good investment.
 
That sure seems like a ton for rockers on a mild 383. I would get some more opinions before pulling the trigger. Several members say they have had bad luck with Hughes stuff. If I was gonna spend that much, I would run the Comp stuff first, I think, even though it's only 1.5.
 
By mild, I meant a cam with <240* @ 050" and < 0.570" lift...and many of the folks on here seem to think 240* is still mild...

Besides, while I may not need it, I was looking to make the most consistency out of the build, and max consistency would fall in line with what Mike said...correct rocker ratios means consistent airflow and balanced power between cylinders.

I'm sure it might not make "much" difference, but I think the gist of what I asked wasn't so much, would you spend this much money on your engine as it was, if you had the money to spend and planned on buying aftermarket valvetrain, would you buy these before other brands, or are they worth the money.
 
Hughes makes real good rockers. IMO the best rockers for the money. The Cryo treatment is a waste of money unless you running big RPM, 7000+ and /or big spring loads, 600#+.

I think I clicked the wrong link, wasn't looking to buy the cryo treated ones, but that's kinda what I figured
 
If consistency is what you want, an old set of the ductile iron Crane, Isky or Ersons will be just as accurate and consistant. Granted not rollers, but do you really need them?

I mean, get what you want, but there ARE other more cost effective ways that are just as good.
 
That sure seems like a ton for rockers on a mild 383. I would get some more opinions before pulling the trigger. Several members say they have had bad luck with Hughes stuff. If I was gonna spend that much, I would run the Comp stuff first, I think, even though it's only 1.5.


Ohhh, trust me, Rob, I've got plenty of time before I pull any triggers. Just would like a warm fuzzy before I just arbitrarily drop that much coin on anything. I've seen a couple other options, and I already have a set of ductile rockers on the heads-which I'll likely use unless I have use for the extra 0.030" lift with 1.6s. And I looked at the COMPs...looks like they're actually a little more costly (from Summit anyway), but I'm sure either way they'd work pretty well.
 
I gotchya. ...and I was not bashing Hughes personally. I just know that more than a few members say they have had bad luck with their stuff. Maybe they'll chime in.
 
I gotchya. ...and I was not bashing Hughes personally. I just know that more than a few members say they have had bad luck with their stuff. Maybe they'll chime in.

I didn't figure you were-I know I've seen a couple folks on here not so pleased with Hughes, but gotta hear all sides...
 
Absolutely. I bet more people are happy than not.
 
Cryogenics is awesome. There is a local shop here that can do brake rotors if you have a warping issue. You will never have it again after spending the $40 to get them cryogenically treated. They do gun barrels as well, and they are never more accurate. Is it worth it in a mild 318? If you want to keep it forever, sure.
 
I have 2 big blocks here done at hughes. Both are plagued with very bad machine and assembly work. They were engines done for the Duster that was in Mopar muscle feature. The car was a joke. Engines were really bad. The article showed a Dyno run at carlisle. 450 hp out of a 500 inch roller motor here is a pic of the car. I am sure some of you remember the article. The owners name was Luther. I wouldn't let them build a 5 horse briggs
 

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Cryogenics is awesome...They do gun barrels as well, and they are never more accurate...

Now, THAT is cool-not trying to get too far off topic here, but I've read the same a few other places. Damn shame I won't be shooting competitively for a few years...

Otherwise, I do want the most reliability out of it I can get.
 
I have 2 big blocks here done at hughes. Both are plagued with very bad machine and assembly work. They were engines done for the Duster that was in Mopar muscle feature. The car was a joke. Engines were really bad. The article showed a Dyno run at carlisle. 450 hp out of a 500 inch roller motor here is a pic of the car. I am sure some of you remember the article. The owners name was Luther. I wouldn't let them build a 5 horse briggs

I never saw the article to be honest-I might have to go check out their archives if it's still in there and not removed due to extreme embarrassment. So, I hear one vote for don't let them do any of my machining or assembly. Would you personally think their parts are OK to use (pending serviceability inspection) or would you personally recommend looking elsewhere?
 
I'm running them ,no problems. The valve train geometry is so much be then the crane gold rockers I was running. Money well spent!
 
Every set of rocker arms I have ever purchased I've had problems with. PRW, T&D, Harland Sharp, Crane and Hughes. They all need to be carefully inspected before use.

The problem I had with the Hughes was the condition of the rocker shafts. Hughes has their "banana groove" shafts. The grooves on the shafts they sent me looked as if they had been installed with a cutoff wheel on a 4-1/2" grinder. There was proud metal all along the edge of the grooves that would have shaved metal from the rockers and wallowed out the rockers in no time. I had to get out the porting tools and sand the banana grooves to remove the razor blades they had installed when making the banana grooves. Ran them for awhile and then went to the Harland Sharps with their bad adjusting screws and cleanliness issues, but have never reused the Hughes. They sit in boxes waiting for the next time I have geometry or fitment questions.
 
I never saw the article to be honest-I might have to go check out their archives if it's still in there and not removed due to extreme embarrassment. So, I hear one vote for don't let them do any of my machining or assembly. Would you personally think their parts are OK to use (pending serviceability inspection) or would you personally recommend looking elsewhere?

Any parts you buy from them will need to be checked for proper machine work. I would never bolt them right on without checking everything. One wrong piece and there goes the engine. One of the many problems with the engine in the car was the rockers. The crank was also junk. It was not radius-ed properly. the only parts savagable out of the motor in the car was the Mega block and the Edlebrock heads. And they all need to be repaired. They are setting on the shelf here we didn't reuse them.
 
I recommend their roller rockers. IMO, they are a nice rocker arm. I have a set on my 318, and my 408.
 
I don't think I'd call the 240/.570 cam "moderate" in a 383. IMO - you need at least an iron ajustable. The hughes are decent pieces but like everyone says - "your results may vary" and you have to check.
 
Everybody keeps calling Hughes stuff Hughes. It's not. They don't make anything as far as I know. I don't know who makes it, but it ain't them, I do not believe.
 
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