bead blaster/ Cheetah / bead seater / bead bazooka?

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So I had trouble with a tire, and after some Googling, I found

Murphy's soap. No thank you very much

Using a bike inner tube. Tends to shorten the already questionable life of a tube

Ether. Fire's 'n I don't get along, besides, lots of videos indicate this is...........well...

so I come to the air tank/ bead blaster / Cheetah thing. And I already have a 50 lb R12 tank converted to an air tank, so I welded a 1 1/4" pipe nipple in, reduced to a 1" ball valve and a flattened-on-the-end 1 ft piece of pipe.

I can NOT get this thing to work

Experiences? thoughts?

I'm headed back out to try some different "stuff."

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[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqaMRmonXo8"]CH-5 Cheetah Bead Seater - YouTube[/ame]
 
If you're going to those lengths, there's some other issue.

I like how they have a nice shiny rim resting on the concrete. I love scratched up rims. They're so "real".
 
I"ve always just removed the valve stem and pushed the air hose on it with no chuck in the hose, just the fitting. I have put a tiedown strap around the tire and cinched it up a bit to force the beads out. (bungie cords on smaller golf car tires if they were too much of a pain)
 
I ran a tire shop and made my own blaster too. take out the stem, hook on the air hose and make sure you have the nozzle of the blaster resting on the tire and an inch or 2 from the wheel. A 1 inch ball valve will not usually get it. It needs to be a 2 inch ball valve and two inch pipe and 2 inch flattened nozzle to get all that air to shoot fast enough.
 
whiteeagle said:
I ran a tire shop and made my own blaster too. take out the stem, hook on the air hose and make sure you have the nozzle of the blaster resting on the tire and an inch or 2 from the wheel. A 1 inch ball valve will not usually get it. It needs to be a 2 inch ball valve and two inch pipe and 2 inch flattened nozzle to get all that air to shoot fast enough.
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DAMN. I thought about a 1 1/4---1 1/2" valve but they are nearly twice as expensive as a 1"

I tried it again, twice and it worked the last time. I believe what you say may be correct--I believe I had it pulled back from the rim somewhat

I am using a clip on air chuck, and both the valve stem and the chuck center are removed. This is a 1/2" hose about 25' with another 25 ft of 3/8 hose to the stem.
 
69B-Cuda said:
I"ve always just removed the valve stem and pushed the air hose on it with no chuck in the hose, just the fitting. I have put a tiedown strap around the tire and cinched it up a bit to force the beads out. (bungie cords on smaller golf car tires if they were too much of a pain)
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I have a ratchet strap, but cannot get it to "slip" on the tire. I can tighten it until the tire buckles in one place. I'm thinking of playing with that some more, maybe soaping up the strap
 
Yer all nuckin futs. Evidently no one ever had a rupture. I don't even air my own tires without a clip on. A week before my birthday in 06 I had one fail , ripped open both hands, both eyes and an eyebrow. Hit the ceiling and took out the wiring to the building . 32 stitches to put all my handsome back together. Got super "lucky" in that there was no tendon or ligament damage. Just a whole lotta meat hanging out.
The worse part came that weekend, I had promised my daughter to do Toys for Tots Chicago parade. We did, it sucked but we had fun
 
younggun2.0 said:
why not use the ether and match trick? lol.

http://youtu.be/8A_XOWA-DAk
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Seen too many Youtube videos, blowing up tires, blowing up the dog, blowing up little sister, and in general, blowing up.

There are some articles by Cooper and others about tire damage.

Well, "it's" mounted for now. I can experiment later.

I cannot believe how ridiculously expensive the inflatable girdles are. I used to use those all the time.
 
funwithfuel said:
Yer all nuckin futs. Evidently no one ever had a rupture. I don't even air my own tires without a clip on. A week before my birthday in 06 I had one fail , ripped open both hands, both eyes and an eyebrow. Hit the ceiling and took out the wiring to the building . 32 stitches to put all my handsome back together. Got super "lucky" in that there was no tendon or ligament damage. Just a whole lotta meat hanging out.
The worse part came that weekend, I had promised my daughter to do Toys for Tots Chicago parade. We did, it sucked but we had fun
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You mind rewording this? It makes no sense to me. You had one of "what" fail? A tire? A can of starting fluid? A clip on? A "not" a clip on?
 
See someone has already mentioned a ratchet strap.....have never had it fail me yet....
 
Bead ruptured when it seated. Only had about 10-12 psi I had just put the tire on the rim , was airing it up, heard the inboard bead seat . When the outboard seated the wheel bounced and fell over. When the rim hit the ground, the bead ruptured . The rest was a flash. I really thought I lost my head. Crazy experience I don't want anyone else to experience. Can happen on any size tire from lawn movers to semi size supersingles. Heavy equipment rubber tires can push a 13 ton service truck 30 feet and bend it in half. Nobody really believes how dangerous something as simple as a tire can be.
 
I do have an old manual tire machine, and leave the tire/ wheel fastened with the "big nut."

This is not mine, but it's very similar

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You gotta ratchet strap? Run the ratchet strap around the tire and tighten it up so it swells the beads out against the lips of the wheel.
 
wow, I have used Ether, gasoline, alcohol, carb cleaner and must have put 100 used tires on, in the dirt, using a crowbar, some other bar, a tire jack to break the bead and apparently a pile of luck. I was not aware that explosion and rupture were more than far distant possibilities. Fortunately now days I can afford to just go to the tire shop. Thanks funwithfuel.
 
Yep, I did all that stuff too. Had a cage, never used it, til that happened. Now I let the tire "pros" do all that. I don't mean to knock anybody's practices, just wanted everyone informed. I would hate to here someone got hurt when I could've said or done something.
 
RustyRatRod said:
You gotta ratchet strap? Run the ratchet strap around the tire and tighten it up so it swells the beads out against the lips of the wheel.
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Been there done that. Don't know if it was this particular tire 'er whut. All it wanted to do was buckle in one place. I was thinking that the strap needed to "slip" maybe soap it up.

I'm gonna havta do some more searching/ experimentation with this air tank thing, they are SUPPOSED to work.
 
Get a large ball peen hammer and a 2X4. Stick the 2X4 between the top bead and wheel and pound the bottom bead onto the lower wheel lip going around a little at a time. Seat it GOOD. Then stick the air on the valve and pull up the tire until the top bead seals against the top lip and the tire blows up. Done deal. No ether, no gas, no fire and no injuries.
 
Tried that. These are aluminum, and the lower bead keeps lifting off. The wheels "are" a little wide for the tires, probably approaching "the limits"
 
Ok. Then here's the end all be all. Remove the top bead and the valve stem. Put a tube in it and blow it up good and tight and seat the hell out of the beads. Let the air out, break down the front bead only, remove the tube, reinstall a valve stem, reinstall the top bead, stick the air on it, pull the tire up and blow it up.
 
Now that is an idea I certainly had not thought of. I'm still going to experiment with the ratchet strap. I used to (years ago, LOL) have really good luck with an inflatable girdle. I'm just about convinced that the ratchet strap is simply binding up. If I can find some plastic 'er somethin to slip under, or maybe just grease the SOB, LOL..................

Bear in mind this is for the "next's time's" I've already used this machine a bit, and haven't come across "this kind" of trouble.

I'm also no where near as strong as I used to be, which is a factor, rass'lin' these around
 
Got the one "trouble tire" mounted earlier using the homemade blaster / seater. Haven't needed any further. Still don't know for sure "why" fail or success.

I've mounted LOTS of tires in my life. I'm not nearly as strong as I once was
 
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