ok I will try that, BTW when I cranked the car and had it at idle my digital multimeter read as follows black large wire-(10.6 V) blue wire hooked to middle terminal-(9.4 V) green wire hooked to far end (0.7 V). Does that tell yall anything? BTW I have a square back ALT that came with my car(not sure if working) should I hook that one up instead to see if that will make a difference? thanks again.