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Nope I aint insulted but using the word 'shadetree' might not be advisable, and if you go back and read my posts I explained how I done it using the ends that were cut-off and having them turned down inside to 3'' so they would go back on the same tubes they were cut-off of thus avoiding 'butt welds' and makes it easier to line everything up and weld,you just tap them on in place over the tube,you want it tight not loose...etc..etc..I'm fine..