Obviously you haven't dealt with Denny ...not taking anything away from Bill, I have dealt with him in the past with great results and am not in anyway bashing him or his product.... but I have heard of Denny loaning out one of his K frame so you can provide him with input and feedback so he can design exactly what you, the customer wants. Denny's K is also is several hundred dollars less while utilizing all top Quality parts, not to mention the design improvement benefits that were previously mentioned.