Lightweight lithium ion battery

That Shorai is only 550 CCA. NOt sure idf that will cut it. Mine is 650 and it grunts on a hot start sometimes if I don't use the 20 deg start retard. Price is decent though.

I'd love to see these at a car show or something so you can buy from a rep.

Ok. I talked to the battery rep. today at the Grand National Roadster Show that was selling the Phantom battery I saw in the past.

Then, I learned my lesson....

The Phantom and Shorai are made in China. They are made by the same place. There may be other label brands that also sell these.

These batteries are NOT designed to cycle for use in automobiles. Cycle means the ability to be discharged or go low on charge and recharged by the alternator. They are good for basic motorcycles, jet skis, and stuff that really has no load while running with the battery is just used to start an electric starter. He mentioned a big Harley Davidson with a radio, headsets, and all the do-dads that had one of these cheaper Li-Ion's that failed. Could probably get away with them in a racecar with no headlight, radio, heater blower, A/C draws that gets recharged constantly.

The Braille Li-Ion batteries are made in the US. And they are not related in any way to the Shorai Li-Ion's. They can take a tremendous amount of Cycles far far more than a traditional wet lead battery or AGM even.

AGM Odyssy cost $150 and can take 400 cycles. $150/400cycles = $.375/cycle

Equivalant Braille cost $500 and can take 2000 cycles. $500/2000cycles = $.25/cycle

Basically a Braille is going to last way longer. The theory is that you will buy and replace 4 or more AGM's in the same period of one Braille battery's lifetime.

That was his sales justification. Just passing it along. I personally could not justify the $500 initial cost.