Torsion bar question??

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While poking around in my garage, I found a pair of .890 bars. Currently, I've got /6 bars in my 340 dart. Would installing the .890 bars make the ride too harsh?

Can I install them without disconnecting the spindles?
 
While poking around in my garage, I found a pair of .890 bars. Currently, I've got /6 bars in my 340 dart. Would installing the .890 bars make the ride too harsh?

Can I install them without disconnecting the spindles?

#1) No. Just barely stiffer than 318 with A/C and 340 T-bars (.87)

#2) Yes. disconnect shock. Remove T-bar clip. Totally loosen T-bar adjuster bolt. LCA should be limp. Then slide out T-bar. Tough part is grabbing T-bar slide/force out. May have to loosen strut bar nut to be LCA to go down and get loose enough.
 
Awesome. Thanks! The more I think about it, I may just use the opportunity to replace the LCA bushings. Is there an easy way to tell they're worn out?
 
Awesome. Thanks! The more I think about it, I may just use the opportunity to replace the LCA bushings. Is there an easy way to tell they're worn out?

Look for the rubber to be squished out.

Look for them being oil soaked (that deteriorates rubber quickly) Especially drivers side that has the power steering pump (leaks on bushing)
 
Might want to buy or make a torsion bar remover tool before attempting the swap. I bought one a few years ago and it has been a real time and aggravation saver on a few jobs. Those torsion bars normally don't pop out easily.
 
..should make it a heck of a lot safer../6 torsion bars with a 340, yikes !
... hope you have front disks as well....

Grassy
 
Good idea.

That will save you costs of paying someone presswork charges to get the old LCA and UCA bushings out and in too. Nowadays, that labor cost is more than the parts themselves.

Unless I am missing something that kit won't help you install the LCA bushings. That's the only part you really need a press for. Not sure what the mean by LCA 'pivot' - ( does it remove the bushing shell?) I made inexpensive rigs to do all that stuff and my local garage pressed my LCAs in for 30 bucks. They do look like good tools if you have the cash, but for guys with more time than money there are other ways to get it done
I also bought a ball joint socket. I think it was $15 from Summit
 
Unless I am missing something that kit won't help you install the LCA bushings. That's the only part you really need a press for. Not sure what the mean by LCA 'pivot' - ( does it remove the bushing shell?) I made inexpensive rigs to do all that stuff and my local garage pressed my LCAs in for 30 bucks. They do look like good tools if you have the cash, but for guys with more time than money there are other ways to get it done
I also bought a ball joint socket. I think it was $15 from Summit

The tools will remove the pivot and bushing shell in under 5 minuates.
Yes you will still need a press to install them, I bought a $2.00 piece of pipe at ACE hardware that fit the bushing, and used a press at work, my bench vice would not open up enough.
The set that Mancini sells also will remove / replace the upper UCA bushing, and remove the torsion bars without damage, and includes both sockets for early and late model ball joints.
It is a little on the expensive side, but worth every penny.
 
Torsion bar pullers are overrated, you can just use the LCA. If you're planning on replacing the LCA bushings, everything has to come out anyway. Back off the torsion bar adjuster, remove the shock, remove the strut rod, and split the LCA from the spindle. Undo the nut on the LCA pivot and the clip at the back of the torsion bar. Now you can use the LCA to drive the torsion bar out of the rear torsion bar socket (the one the it usually sticks in). Just use a "dead blow" mallet so you don't damage the LCA. Works like a charm.

As far as the size of the torsion bar, .89" bars won't be anything even remotely close to harsh. In my opinion, they're still too soft. They'll be a HUGE improvement over the /6 bars, but honestly those should only be used on the dragstrip. 1" bars work great on small block cars, they're not too stiff at all and they'll really help improve the cars handling. I ran them in my Duster, which has a 340, manual steering, headers, an aluminum intake, no A/C, an aluminum radiator, and a few other parts to make it lighter. I still thought the 1" bars were too soft, and I now run 1.12" bars from Firm Feel with a set of Bilstein RCD's. They're perfect, even on the street. The secret to bigger torsion bars is good shocks.
 
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