I may be able to put the rear end together tomorrow. But besides that, feel free to take the next plane down and we can put this all together.
SRT-4 2.4 turbo swap into an early A-Body?
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I may be able to put the rear end together tomorrow. But besides that, feel free to take the next plane down and we can put this all together.
rapidtransitric
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pt/gt same as srt4. na 2.4 is an iron block some consider it more durable to handle the boost. and can be had for around $400-$600. where as an srt4 will start at $1000.00 and go up from there. kind of like gm's ls motor aluminum block to their lq4 truck block that is iron and cheap and people put the ls stuff on that
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i recieved this personal message from badass71 yesterday. for anyone interested in using an automatic behind this swap.
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Re: Srt4 adapter plates
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Been alot of talk about the srt4/2.4 swap in abodies since I let the cat out about my srt4 build. If you are still looking at making these plates let the people know. Cause I would like members to buy from members
PRRC is now jumping into a similar build and is looking at buying an adapter from darrel cox racing or dynamictransmissions. Might be something for you to sell him instead
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I am in the process of having some adaptor plates made up for the srt4 engine to small block mopar bellhousing. If you are interested in one of these please let me know. Pricing will be between $350 and $400 for the plate. It will have ears coming off of the plate on both sides for the option of using it as a mid plate. The plate is made from 3/8" aluminum. Any questions, please feel free to ask.
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Re: Srt4 adapter plates
Originally Posted by rapidtransitric
Hi
Been alot of talk about the srt4/2.4 swap in abodies since I let the cat out about my srt4 build. If you are still looking at making these plates let the people know. Cause I would like members to buy from members
PRRC is now jumping into a similar build and is looking at buying an adapter from darrel cox racing or dynamictransmissions. Might be something for you to sell him instead
Rich
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I am in the process of having some adaptor plates made up for the srt4 engine to small block mopar bellhousing. If you are interested in one of these please let me know. Pricing will be between $350 and $400 for the plate. It will have ears coming off of the plate on both sides for the option of using it as a mid plate. The plate is made from 3/8" aluminum. Any questions, please feel free to ask.
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Nice video of my Valiant where I mention wanting to do an SRT-4 swap! The comments are hilarious! [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ztP6xUskg8&list=PL933202463D47A1C2"]Start: $400 - Finish: Mean Green MOPAR: Violent Valiant - /BIG MUSCLE - YouTube[/ame]
rapidtransitric
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that's cool
Aluminum block it is... When I get to it, that is.
both na and turbo srt block are cast. the srt block has a oil return for the turbo. uses a more common crank pattern if you plan on going a full on standalone. both block are almost the same. you can use all the same internal parts in either engine. the cylinder heads are different. as the old na 2.4 use a head more common to the 2.0. later heads flow better with a new port designs. if it was me i would use a srt block do to being able to make it look cleaner plus i like the idea of using aem over a factory computer. the older block you can use a megasquirt but there are no more options as far turning unless you build a crank trigger system.
I found that out later. I've got a guy at work who used to race Neons 10-20 years ago and have discussed this swap with him. I think my '68 Dart may be a little on the big side for this swap. It would be better if I had an early-A.
Kool I just thought I would share. I am so back and forth on what to put in my 65 dart... I know a ton about these 2.4 engines. But I have always wanted to build a v8. Problem is I know very little about them. I guess time will fix that. Good luck with your build.
rapidtransitric
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hold on bucko...
the srt4 neons weighs 2900lbs. the 68 dart comes in at 2715 with a slant 6. so i don't think the car is too big. now check out these links.
http://projectzerog.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1965
http://www.dragzine.com/news/hump-day-holeshot-frankendart-runs-10s-with-a-4-banger-turbo/
that being said if you listen what the ney sayer's say you'll never have what you want.only what they want
It's not that I'm listening to the ney sayer's, I'm just looking and taking into consideration all of the facts that are given to me. When my Dart will be done, my guess, is it will probably weigh close to 3200 lbs with my larger wheels, brakes, sound deadening, etc. I just got my brakes in today, and man are they heavy. This will be a street car for the most part so it will be fully furnished on the inside. Don't get me wrong, this is definitely a cool swap that I'm still very interested. Thinking about it, the SRT4 swap may be too laborious in the fabrication department (more than I can probably handle with my tools and skills at this level). I'm still thinking about it, who knows, I may find a good deal on a 2.0/2.4 and stick with that.
rapidtransitric
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here is an adapter plate from torque converter techniques to adapt the 904 in this type of swap. the 2.0 DOHC flexplate and starter are used also. the address and phone number to "torque converter techniques" is included in the second picture.
Matts440
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With the power you can get out of the srt4 motors moving a 3200lbs car wont be a problem, wonder if with the front factory bracket for mounts if you can just get a blank piece of thick aluminum and make a mount with that. Had my srt4 with full bolt ons (cams, cam gear, +1mm int and exh valves, 1000cc inj, 3" intake tube), ported heads, 60-1 turbo, ACT stage 3 4 puck disc, with a full car of guys put it pasted 3200 pounds and it still hauled *** and wasnt even fully tuned yet was still playing with it to get it dialed in good. If you want to see what these motors are capable of check out Darrell Cox Racing cars and web site.
fstfish66
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kool valiant,,, we all dont need to have E BODIES,,,, are you the guy that ownes the speedo repair shop ??? i have a stewart warner speedo in my street rod that the odometer doesnt work,,,cant wait to see the SRT motor in there,,,PM me if you repair speedos please,,,
Yeah, unfortunately I had to back out of the SRT4 plan for my Dart and I stuck myself with a supercharged small block (though, I'm not too excited about the added weight). Shoving an SRT4 engine in there would have taken way too much fab work and time for me and I really wanted a car I can drive now. I'm still thinking about my next project though, I'd like to reuse almost all of my leftover Dart parts and make a pretty fun Early-A cruiser. I was thinking a wagon.
Will it have an SRT4, a turbo slant, or my 273 (I'd like to try rebuilding), idk...
rapidtransitric
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Yeah, unfortunately I had to back out of the SRT4 plan for my Dart and I stuck myself with a supercharged small block (though, I'm not too excited about the added weight). Shoving an SRT4 engine in there would have taken way too much fab work and time for me and I really wanted a car I can drive now. I'm still thinking about my next project though, I'd like to reuse almost all of my leftover Dart parts and make a pretty fun Early-A cruiser. I was thinking a wagon.
alot of fab work? where making a couple of motor mounts? maybe.. an oil pan? you get the trans adapter plate and put the 904 in there is no tunnel work. the rest is all resourcing parts from a stratus, a pt cruiser, a breeze, a neon or even a carravan. sounds like what everyone else is doing. sourcing parts and brackets from various years, models and mopar chassis'
mario03srt
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The main advantages will be a lighter engine and the ability to Hook Up! I had a srt-4 Stg. 3 with 375/425 to the front wheels. Best of a 11.87 @ 118.xx and a 1.8 60ft.
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rapidtransitric
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yes lighter engine, rwd traction, and in some cases, a body that weighs less than a neon
For someone who's only tools are a small box of wrenches, it does make it difficult to make motor mounts or an oil pan when you don't have a welder, something to cut metal, etc. And also, there was no way in hell I was going to keep the 904 in my Dart. It was definitely getting a manual. For my next project, I'm definitely going to invest in a wider assortment of tools and try to do more work myself reusing some of the parts from my Dart (yes, that means the 904). I figured a lighter engine would be better suited for an early-A due to the lighter weight. I know the 2.0 and 2.4 are like legos.
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I feel compelled to do this swap at some point now that you have decided against it lol. I understand your choice completely, SBMs are what these cars came with and you can make these cars super fast with that big displacement/weight ratio. The engine weight is an issue though and using a mildly tuned SRT-4 engine would be sweet, 300 some lbs. off the front lol.
One question not sure if it was brought up but what about the Caliber SRT-4 engines? Are they still based off the older 2.4 engine in the Neons? Also those cars definitely weighed more than the Neon-based ones being a rather large hatchback, they came with 300 HP from the factory and are pretty dang fast if also ugly.
One question not sure if it was brought up but what about the Caliber SRT-4 engines? Are they still based off the older 2.4 engine in the Neons? Also those cars definitely weighed more than the Neon-based ones being a rather large hatchback, they came with 300 HP from the factory and are pretty dang fast if also ugly.
Again, SBM wasn't my first option, a deal was just came in at the right moment and I had to take it. I'm also worried about the iron headed, supercharged sb's weight going into the front of the car. Seems like a boat anchor.
Though, doing research, I don't think the engine would take 300 lbs off the front. For example, my 273 weighs about 525-550 lbs. A 2.4L engine alone weighs about 340 lbs (SRT4 forums). So, it's 200 lbs lighter... Then factor in the turbo manifold, turbo, tubing, intercooler, and misc components and you may be 100 lbs lighter. Although, I'm not disagreeing that a 100 lb weight loss on the front is a pretty big deal, especially for our A-bodies. Again, I'm still not opposed to the 2.4, I just didn't want it for my Dart as I wanted in a state where I can drive it now. If I get another project, it will most likely be an early-A. A lighter, smaller platform would suite the engine better IMO. Depending on cost, tools, and fabrication it will definitely be considered, again.
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