Scarebird Conversion
if you'll look at a lot of the lead sleds, rat rods,custom trucks ,cars and vans you'll see scarebird stuff on a lot of them. they're pretty popular out west. that's where I heard of them on the 95 ish or so and they had been out there a while to my understanding
not to knock any of the others,, (well maybe a little, but I like the way scarebirds setup works and the ease of getting parts) and at your own pace to pickup parts. I live out in the sticks so a ups truck do not like to visit me often and parts stores are 15-20 minutes away.
it is totally a DIY job
if you have a drill press.. even a 49.99 harbor freight one *(with the 20% off of course)
If you drill the ORIGINAL hubs out to the 5 on 4.5 (now you even have the more and cheaper wheels)setting and never have to worry that if you trash a rotor what will happen.
I drilled and tapped for screw in threads my first 2 jobs and then discovered A machinist that did moonlighting as a roundy-round guy and had the jig made to do em in about 5 minutes each for about 12 bucks a hub. that's a no brainer there
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you drill the 5 on 4.5 pattern ROTOR's from "Bendix" hmm didn't see gm in there did ya? but yes that particular rotor fits both the mopar AND the Gm cars. And they give you the pattern to drill (Drill It Yourself) to the 5 on 4 pattern. there is NO machining of the original 5 on 4 hub. ya just add a ring to center the rotor done! I had one caliper I took a hand file to so I could get clearance for the brackets. The other side fit fine. I flipped em side to side and it fit the other bracket also so it was caliper casting differences I had to file off (about a minute.)
oh and if you do the b body upgrade thingy (like going from 9" spindles to theirs or disc spindles from ma mopar and replace the upper control arms and spindle. you now have to align the car, scarebirds. doesn't need that ,not that you shouldn't have a great car aligned. But since you didn't do anything to the upper or lower control arms there is no need of alignment. in my case it was done Before I went to scarebirds and I took it back within a week to check, PERFECT.
before drilling
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been sitting in humid area for a while so ignore the flash rust.
after drilling to 5 on 4.5, notice the option to go back to 5 on 4. worried about getting stud out ? drill from the back pilot 1/8 then 1/2 about 1/4 into the head of the stud, knock off the heads and center punch through. no bent hubs EVER!
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I have one of his kits on my Demon's 9" drum spindles 10" disc - uses Mazda rotors, GM calipers/lines/pads- had him make custom hubs to run the 5x4.5" BC instead of the SBP
Go off his website as they're cheaper and also they are not bolt on kits totally to run the setup you need to have the rotors drilled for the SBP, and the back of the rotors machined to fit the registry on the stock hubs/studs
It's really debatable if the kit's are cheaper.. I had $450 not including the custom hubs ($350 more) - paid $400.50 for the Right Stuff kit
My Scarebird kit will be for sale soon as I bought a b body 11" setup from Right Stuff Detailing - BBP is where it's at.. more and cheaper wheels than SBP
I'd sell my setup for $400 shipped with new lower ball joints (small) and you'd just have to have the hubs/rotors drilled for SBP and get 7/16" studs as my setup is 4.5"BC and 1/2" studs PM if interested.. been assembled on the car but not driven on yet
if you'll look at a lot of the lead sleds, rat rods,custom trucks ,cars and vans you'll see scarebird stuff on a lot of them. they're pretty popular out west. that's where I heard of them on the 95 ish or so and they had been out there a while to my understanding
not to knock any of the others,, (well maybe a little, but I like the way scarebirds setup works and the ease of getting parts) and at your own pace to pickup parts. I live out in the sticks so a ups truck do not like to visit me often and parts stores are 15-20 minutes away.
it is totally a DIY job
if you have a drill press.. even a 49.99 harbor freight one *(with the 20% off of course)
If you drill the ORIGINAL hubs out to the 5 on 4.5 (now you even have the more and cheaper wheels)setting and never have to worry that if you trash a rotor what will happen.
I drilled and tapped for screw in threads my first 2 jobs and then discovered A machinist that did moonlighting as a roundy-round guy and had the jig made to do em in about 5 minutes each for about 12 bucks a hub. that's a no brainer there
OR
you drill the 5 on 4.5 pattern ROTOR's from "Bendix" hmm didn't see gm in there did ya? but yes that particular rotor fits both the mopar AND the Gm cars. And they give you the pattern to drill (Drill It Yourself) to the 5 on 4 pattern. there is NO machining of the original 5 on 4 hub. ya just add a ring to center the rotor done! I had one caliper I took a hand file to so I could get clearance for the brackets. The other side fit fine. I flipped em side to side and it fit the other bracket also so it was caliper casting differences I had to file off (about a minute.)
oh and if you do the b body upgrade thingy (like going from 9" spindles to theirs or disc spindles from ma mopar and replace the upper control arms and spindle. you now have to align the car, scarebirds. doesn't need that ,not that you shouldn't have a great car aligned. But since you didn't do anything to the upper or lower control arms there is no need of alignment. in my case it was done Before I went to scarebirds and I took it back within a week to check, PERFECT.
before drilling
View attachment DSCF2791.jpg
been sitting in humid area for a while so ignore the flash rust.
after drilling to 5 on 4.5, notice the option to go back to 5 on 4. worried about getting stud out ? drill from the back pilot 1/8 then 1/2 about 1/4 into the head of the stud, knock off the heads and center punch through. no bent hubs EVER!
View attachment WP_20130917_004.jpg
