Horn beeps when steering wheel turns, Help!

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i have a 1968 plymouth barracuda Notch
440 RB - from 1973 440 magnum charger
i am having a horn issue it started to beep when steering wheel turns i removed the steering wheel center cap and it seems there some sort of ground issue there touching when wheel turns.

has anyone ever had this issue and know how to fis or can someone offer an alternative maybe a rigged side button but i would need a bit of info on the wiring schematics of doing that. i do know the horn wiring is on driver side kick panel i disconnected th:burnout:at to delete the horn from going off always/

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Something is grounding out,pull the wheel and inspect the wires

Do your turn signals click off after you complete a turn? If not then the broken piece is loose in the column

Grounding the black wire signals the horn relay, horn blows. There are quite a few parts that isolate the circuit while getting it to a rotating wheel. Any one of them could be the culprit. Take a very close look at these parts, post pics if needed.

Sedanman said:

Do your turn signals click off after you complete a turn? If not then the broken piece is loose in the column

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my turn signals do not automatically turn off after completing a turn. no

Sedanman said:

Something is grounding out,pull the wheel and inspect the wires

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no... last time i pulled a steering wheel from a mopar (a body) the steering column collapsed

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RedFish said:

Grounding the black wire signals the horn relay, horn blows. There are quite a few parts that isolate the circuit while getting it to a rotating wheel. Any one of them could be the culprit. Take a very close look at these parts, post pics if needed.

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thanks ill look at these

will update soon.

You probably had a piece break off from the turn signal canceler and it broke a wire. I had it happen before. It collapsed? Then someone screwed up something before you got it. Do you have a steering wheel puller?

Sedanman said:

You probably had a piece break off from the turn signal canceler and it broke a wire. I had it happen before. It collapsed? Then someone screwed up something before you got it. Do you have a steering wheel puller?

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THE STEERING column telescoped on me before on a different car but learned the hard way on that one and got her fixed.

now this project though, i have this issue with the horn. and i dont have a steering wheel puller so i wont touch it. :glasses7:

so you think the black wire is grounding somewhere causing the horn to go off.

Steering wheel pullers are CHEAP at the chain auto stores, and you can borrow one from some stores for just a refundable deposit, so it's free. You need to use one for this; life will be good with the puller, and you won't have collapsed columns.

I could come by and help you if I knew where in California you are.

Way to step up Jim.

cudajim said:

I could come by and help you if I knew where in California you are.

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I'm located in Fullerton Ca.
thanks for the offer but thats a good drive even for me. :angel12:

If you collapsed the steering housing or inner steering rod in pulling the steering wheel, you did something abnormal. A puller (real cheap) acts just between the steering wheel and the rod, so no forces on anything else. I did beat one off w/ a hammer (actually big socket wrench), but that was in the junkyard where I didn't have the tool, nor care about the vehicle.

BIG-B-Barracuda said:

I'm located in Fullerton Ca.
thanks for the offer but thats a good drive even for me. :angel12:

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Dang, if I weren't working 6 10's this week on top of 4 hours of school each night I would drop by after work. You are about 10 minutes up the 5/57 from me.

i use to do this to my buddys cars all the time lol...its a fun prank

big b barracuda...

i had to change the turn signal switch which requires pulling the steering wheel.

1. if your steering wheel is a stock plymouth model, press and turn the center horn padded assembly and it will come off. the chrome steel horn assembly comes off the same way (i believe).

2. once you have the horn cover off you will see a large nut and an outer round plate which should have two 5/16 (i believe) standard coarse threaded holes.on either side of the center nut. these holes are where you screw your wheel-puller assembly. now, if you don't want to buy a wheel-puller, you can make one. get a large steel bar at lease 1 inch thick and about 5 inches wide. drill three holes in this bar - one in the center and the other two lined up with the 5/16 holes in your steering wheel. you then put two 5/16 bolts through the outer holes and screw them into the steering wheel holes. screw a nut onto this bolt up to the middle of the bolt and then insert the bolt into the center hole of your bar. screw another nut onto this bolt on the other side of the bar. with the outer bolts screwed into the steering wheel and the center bolt resting on the center nut of the steering wheel, tighten the center bolt until the steering wheel comes loose.

3. before you try pulling the wheel, remove the center nut and spray the bolt with wd-40 or similar penetrating oil and let it sit for about 30 minutes. also, take a hammer and hit the steering wheel by the center nut several times NOT TO HARD!! with a hammer. before you do this, loosen the center nut but leave it on the shaft before you strike with the hammer. that way, if you accidently hit the shaft threads you can unscrew the nut over the treads repairing them.

4. if you buy a puller it will work the same way i've described for the home made version.

5. old mopar turn signal assemblies have a cool copper "roller wheel" design that makes contact with the steering wheel horn collar. this assembly is in the plastic turn signal assembly and has a very small spring on it. it the turn signal assembly is broken or cracked, this roller wheel is probably not working right. the plug wire that comes up from the steering column is the power wire. the horn works when you push the hub assembly down to where it contacts the horn collar ring which completes the circuit as the horn collar ring is grounded.

6. if you take the steering wheel off, i would jack the front of the car up so you can turn the front wheels left and right while watching what is going on at the steering column. you should be able to see what is grounding out the horn wire.

hope all this helps..

disconnect horn and just use finger

Big-B-Barracuda, I now have the same problem. Were you able to find a solution?

Do you have a Rim-Blow wheel?

If so, the horn will honk if the rim is squeezed.

I just fixed the same issue recently. My issue was the insulation ring which the black wire connects to was broken. I had another steering wheel and removed the part from it and installed it on the wheel I use and it no longer beeps when I turn. Here is the part I'm talking about.