rear gearing with a four speed A833.

Say, Alpha,
-I was re-reading this thread, and I came across something in post 14, that I missed the first time. In it you mention that you feel like your engine is wrapped up too far in first with 3.55s and that your car loses too much momentum, going into second. This is typical of wide ratio boxes, like most all 3 spds, including the 3+1 O/D box. It gets aggravated with engines that are not tuned for stump pulling;ergo,your 360. The problem wont go away until you go to a 4 speed or more.No amount of rear gear fudging will get you out of this situation.
-The 4 speed boxes tighten up all the splits, so that the revs dont fall so far between shifts. So #1 you dont have to rev it up so high in 1st, to grab a comfortable 2nd. Or #2, If you do rev it out higher in 1st, then 2nd will pull harder, right away.
-The early 4spds with the 3.09 low, have a medium sized 1-2 gap(similar to your A-230) of 61%. The 2.66 low box has a regular gap of 72%. And the T/A box has also about 72%, but has all the other gears tightened up as well. The O/D box is the worst with 54%.
-So I see only 2 possible solutions for your 1-2 gap complaint:
. 1) Find a trans with a tighter 1-2 split, or
. 2) Increase the off-idle torque of your engine, or
. 3) Switch to an autotrans, or
. 4) Contact the guy in a previous post with the tractor teener, and clone his torque monster.
Ok, well thats 4 options.
-After all the box swapping in my combo, I settled on the 3.09/direct box. The 3.09 to 1.92 split at 62% is liveable, and lets me run highway-friendly gears of 3.55s or 3.23s with my 230* cam. With a stockish cam, you should be able to pull 2.94s Ok , and maybe even 2.76s.
-One more general observation, on starter gears(low ratio x diff ratio):
. . . For 360s with street cams; a brisk pull away needs ratios of 9.5 to 10.5. The lower is acceptable, the higher is busy. At 8.5 I didnt like it at all. At more than 11 it becomes a race starter.If you have the lower gear in the trans, you can move up the scale, to help with 2nd.
-I am very happy, finally, with the 3.09/direct box and 3.55s(10.97 starter, the equivalent of 2.66 x 4.12s).
-Happy swapping, AJ
Yeah AJ, we talked about this stuff between PMs. Like I said before, you offered Alot of good useable real world advice. Yes that split from 1st to second kinda blows... but I could live with it if I had to for a lower rpm at 70. What I NEED is a 5 speed lol. BUT that's not in the cards right now. This car spends most of its time on the street so I would rather be more comfortable cruising than being able to blow the doors off of every car that pulls up next to me. Of course I'm trying to find that middle ground. I think what I'm going to end up doing is using the OD box with my current 3.55s.:burnout: I've still got plenty of torque for the 1st to second shift. It's just when I'm hot rodding it it seems to run out of steam quick. Which we talked about as well. Every time I think about this gear and tranny situation, the more I realize the only REAL problem solver is to run a five speed. Everything else just seems to be a bandaid. Some day! Lol I know a lot of guys are alright running high RPM. I'm just not part of that bandwagon. I feel that anything really over 2600rpm at 70 is just a waste of fuel and shortens my engine life. I figure at 70 the OD ratio of .73 and a 25.6 inch tire will get me just under 2500 rpm. Which I feel will be fine seems how at 70 your not really looking to hot rod it in OD anyway. Ka boom!! I feel if I don't have torque coming on at 2000 rpm it's not really a good street engine. Especially one with street gears. Like I said I don't want high rpm at cruise. Some of you guys though I'm sure are fine with 4.10's and power not coming on til 3500 rpm. Just not my idea of a street engine is all.