Hard going in and out of reverse

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I'm having trouble with my 833 in my '68 Barracuda. I had the trans gone thru by a local tranny shop and when I got it back you could barely get it in and out of reverse with channel locks. I took it back and he said the cover was interfering. I thought it was still hard to move after getting it back but my friend told me that they all shift hard into reverse. After installing everything, I can barely get into or out of reverse. I'm using an Inland shifter and the forward gears shift smoothly. I got my friend to try and shift it last night so he would know what I was talking about. Now he says the tranny has to come out (again). I've read about tapping the side cover up a bit but my friend never heard of that and says all my fluid will leak out and yada yada...Does the tranny need to come out? About to lose my mind hear...Thanks.
 
You shouldn't have to use you leg on the shifter to get into reverse.
IMO, if the cover was/is interfering it should never have left the tranny shop. If you paid to have it work right and it doesn't, tranny shop should fix it for you. Sounds as though you have ruled out the shifter. (I assume you were using the channel locks on shift tabs and not the fork flats.) Bring it with the trans assembled and show'em what'cha got.
 
Theres only one of three things it can be. Well 4, but if the same parts are in it now as before then 4rd doesnt count. So 1) the cover is interfering; in which case pushing it up may help, but more than likely the reverse lever is wrong-part, or 2) the reverse detent tube has been driven down too far, or 3). the reverse lever is not deep enough into the cover, and the external lever is dragging on the cover.
These are basic bench checks, and the shop should have corrected these before it ever got back to you. I would take it back. However, the the last two are easily field-corrected. Unless the o-ring was torn;then its a complete tear down.
Im off to work now, so perhaps someone else will chime in. Ill check back later.
 
That's why I use "my" transmission guy, in Livonia, MI... He does them right... A good trans guy is hard to find...


He's a bit of a way for you, but I still take all of my stuff to him from Chicago now... He's worth the trip... I've been using him for 25 years, and he's fixed things other "trans guys" didn't get right....


11900 Middlebelt Road
Livonia, MI 48150

Tel No: 734-458-1396

BUSINESS HOURS:
Mon - Fri: 7:00AM - 5:30PM
Sat: 8:00AM - 11:00AM
Sun: (Closed)

Call and talk with the owner Alan.

Here's a link to his web site:

http://usatransmissionspecialist.com/


I've had close to 10 or more transmissions and at least half a dozen axles done by him and they all worked great. He's really good with the old Mopar transes, and also the new stuff. He's the best guy that I've used in over 35 years in this hobby...
 
Daves69 said:
You shouldn't have to use you leg on the shifter to get into reverse.
IMO, if the cover was/is interfering it should never have left the tranny shop. If you paid to have it work right and it doesn't, tranny shop should fix it for you. Sounds as though you have ruled out the shifter. (I assume you were using the channel locks on shift tabs and not the fork flats.) Bring it with the trans assembled and show'em what'cha got.
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^^^^^^ This.
Take it back, because if you mess with it they will tell you it's your problem now.

(Take the whole car so they can see/feel it for themselves) and then pull it and give it back.
 
TrailBeast said:
^^^^^^ This.
Take it back, because if you mess with it they will tell you it's your problem now.

(Take the whole car so they can see/feel it for themselves) and then pull it and give it back.
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I'd tell them to pull it, fix it, and install it, at their cost for messing it up in the first place, or at least pay his labor to remove and re-install for them to fix at no cost...

If they built it right in the first place, it wouldn't have to come out.


Lack of quality on their part shouldn't require more work on yours...

DO IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME!
 
krazykuda said:
I'd tell them to pull it, fix it, and install it, at their cost for messing it up in the first place, or at least pay his labor to remove and re-install for them to fix at no cost...

If they built it right in the first place, it wouldn't have to come out.


Lack of quality on their part shouldn't require more work on yours...

DO IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME!
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I wish everything always went like it was supposed to, but...
Having worked in a trans shop for some years I can tell you if they got just the trans the first time that's what they will want again.
In my opinion it would be nice for them to feel what the heck is going on for themselves with it in the car though.

I didn't see anyone ask if it was hard to get in and out while running or not.
If it's hard while running and easy while the engine is off, they will blame the installation.

Just some thoughts.
 
It's just as hard to shift when it's running as when it's not. Once it's in reverse it seems fine. No noise or anything. Backs up fine. I just really have to push it into reverse and getting it back out is just as hard. Forward gears all work really nice. My friend kind of knows the tranny guy so I guess I'll take it back to him (with it in the car) so he can see for himself even though I'm not very happy right now. :banghead:
 
wonder if someone put silicone on the O ring for the reverse shaft. It is the lowest one of the three and is submerged in oil. It is prone to leaks. Don't ask me how I know what happens when you put permatex on them but it shifts hard REAL hard and slow. Sounds like sealant on shift shaft.? Wish you were closer you could bring it over and we would just fix it.
 
I have an idea. If by chance the rebuilder had switched out the 68 1-2 gear fork pivot to a earlier pivot ( like because of bad threads) it will interfere with the reverse lever, as it is pulled back into place. NOTICE how in 68 the reverse dog lever has a wider flare on it where it hits the safety switch. This was a 'lock out' feature.
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hi, loosen up cover, shift trans into reverse, then tighten bolts . the shoe on 1-2 lever meshes with reverse shoe. some times they need to be adjusted . I've always shifted mine into reverse before tightening cover bolts, some times might have to grind on the shoe for it to clear. it's an easy fix.
 
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