Flaming River Manual Steering Box

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srduster340

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Anybody has the Flaming River manual steering box with a Tuff steering wheel? My rebuilt factory box is acting weird so I'm considering getting the Flaming River box. I know turning is kinda hard but just trying to gauge how hard.
 
I had one in my Duster, it was fine when I only used it as a drag car. Very tough if you are using on a street car. I switched to Firm Feel P/S box stage 3
 
Thanks. I like the Borgeson power box but $700 to start! No thank you!
 
I have one with a small diameter wheel. If the car is sitting still good luck turning it. When moving it's not bad, but not easy breezy.
 
I have a flaming river 16:1 manual box on my Duster with a reproduction Tuff wheel. I also have 275/35/18 front tires on my car, so it's a considerable tire patch on the ground.

I love the manual steering steering. Yes, it's hard to turn once you get below about 10mph, and turning the wheel while the car isn't rolling is very difficult. But you shouldn't be "dry steering" anyway. At speed the steering is amazing.

So far I've driven the car a little over 5k miles since I swapped in the flaming river box. I use the car as a daily driver when I'm not working on it, so I guess it's more of a "frequent" driver, although it's moving toward being a full time daily. Parking can be a little entertaining if you don't make it the first time, but other than that the steering is great.
 
I have the Flaming River box on my 68 340 Barracuda. With a 13" steering wheel it was very difficult to turn. I've switched to a 15" steering wheel for more leverage and it's not bad. I don't know the diameter of the Tuff wheel but I wouldn't go less than 15" dia. However, I'm old enough to remember cars with no power steering and you have to drive them as such. You can't expect to turn the wheel with one hand while standing still in a parking lot. It's all in what you like and I like to feel connected to the road and have little or no slop. This gives me that. It's also a quicker ratio than stock so it's 2 turns lock to lock.
 
It's also a quicker ratio than stock so it's 2 turns lock to lock.

This isn't quite accurate. The 16:1 ratio of the Flaming river box is faster than the "regular" stock 24:1 manual box ratio, but there were also 16:1 "fast ratio" manual boxes available from the factory as an option on some of the earlier cars. Also, ALL of the factory power steering box's have a 16:1 ratio.

As far as the number of turns lock to lock:

16:1 = 3.5 turns
20:1 = 4.5 turns
24:1 = 5.5 turns

Mopar Performance used to make a replacement worm gear with a 20:1 ratio, which is why I listed that as well. They're not currently being reproduced, but there are still some out there that pop up from time to time.
 
This isn't quite accurate. The 16:1 ratio of the Flaming river box is faster than the "regular" stock 24:1 manual box ratio, but there were also 16:1 "fast ratio" manual boxes available from the factory as an option on some of the earlier cars. Also, ALL of the factory power steering box's have a 16:1 ratio.

As far as the number of turns lock to lock:

16:1 = 3.5 turns
20:1 = 4.5 turns
24:1 = 5.5 turns

Mopar Performance used to make a replacement worm gear with a 20:1 ratio, which is why I listed that as well. They're not currently being reproduced, but there are still some out there that pop up from time to time.

Good Info. Thanks for the correction.

Do you ACTUALLY get 3.5 turns with your 16:1 Flaming River box? Mine doesn't come close to that. Where are these specs from?
 
I also had a flaming river manual box one time on my 68 A-body w/ a small block and 245/45/17 tires. I didn't think it was that difficult to steer at slow speeds. I also had a 4 speed trans as well. It worked great. Nice road feel. Id buy another.
 
Got a flaming river box in the duster turns just fine..and took 35 lbs off the frontend by switching from factory power steering:cheers::cheers:
 
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