IF You Were Going To Add A/C?

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In a '61 Lancer, S6....

How would you go about it? (apart from a high dollar, aftermarket complete kit)

Just how creative can we get here? :glasses7:
 
Here's exactly what I plan to do:

Of course your slant might change things, I have not researched this for /6

I have gotten "most of" and will get the "rest of" a factory smallblock bracket setup for a Sanden style pump on a late 80's engine. "So much for the compressor"

Then look around ebay. You can buy compact "evap only" kits for around 200 bucks. These are stand alone "knee knocker" hang under the dash units

All this leaves is a bit of money for hoses.
 
CharlieS sells a compressor bracket for the slant that accepts a modern compressor. Sanden I believe.
 
Thanks

Here's a reply I got from him recently:
"I do not have any more mounts. The company that was making them for me got greedy, and I could not afford to invest the amount of money they wanted."

Anyone else have a lead on one?
 
You might see if whitepunkonnitro has any more 79-up slant Sanden-style brackets. I bought a complete set of brackets from him as I will be trying to mount a Sanden compressor in conjunction with a triple SU or triple Weber set-up in my 65 wagon.
 
Anyone with a lick of sense would know to look in a junkyard.

I was asking if there had been a creative, alternate system the members here might know of.

For instance, for early Ford Mustangs a company has created a rotary compressor bracket that bolts to the Ford factory, piston-style compressor bracket.

I'd be surprised to learn no one has done the same for factory MoPar brackets.

Might look into having one fab'ed up.
 
Of course, I'll end up using what I can get.

But converting from a piston to a rotary compressor is hardly reinventing the wheel.

I was just asking for ideas and input.

Your input is very clear: original A/C unit from junkyard parts.

Got it, thanks
 
My input is to get the brackets ya need for whatever compressor you want to use online, a yard or where ever you want to look. Throw an under dash unit in. Have new hoses fabbed and get a reconditioned compressor somewhere. So no my input was not factory a/c from junk yard parts.

Faster and easier would probably be just buy a kit from vintage or classic air.
 
I'll see if I can get my hands on an original S6 mount and see what it would take to convert it to a rotary compressor like the Mustang conversion unit.

Thanks
 
The problem trying to fab something "onto" the old Mopar bracket is it is already bulky and heavy.
 
We'll see, I guess.

The Ford conversion bracket is a simple affair.

I'm not expecting a MoPar conversion to be so simple.

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That is not a Ford conversion! It is a York and Tecumseh conversion. It also fits other makes.

Engine brackets are not included with a vintage air kit.
 
I understand it's not a Ford conversion.

My apology for not being more clear.

My conversion in the '65 Mustang was from a York to a rotary, and an aftermarket bracket added to the factory bracket made it possible.

Perhaps I can use an original S6 bracket and make a conversion bracket so a rotary will work using both the original S6 bracket AND the conversion bracket.

Thanks for all the helpful input.
 
whew gald your not thinking of adding factory style air. it's a PITA finding the parts and even worse making a non a/c car an a/c car. I'm doing that now with 2 of the 66 darts.

if I ever do another early A it will be with scavenged engine mount parts from a JY car (or on here since /6 mounts are harder to find anywhere and I had ears mounted on it for the rotary mount. swiped from a ford setup) and later model compressor, inside aftermarket slimline a/c and new parallel condenser for better A/C with new hoses and a 99 jeep drier(got the JY mount to put on the inner fender really nice). it will be the easiest solution for me and cheaper than the classic air kits(nice kits though) for sure. total cost for everything was
135.00 for correct v belt compressor (rotary compressor with v belt option ) first compressor was from a 79 aspen /6
50.00 core charge
65.00 high pressure custom hose
55.00 low pressure custom hose
120.00 parallel condenser
21.00 jeep drier
139.00 under dash slimline A/c (next time it'll be the heat/a/c one )
40.00 for Pag oil and freon
sooooo

around 625.00

for what I wanted with better parts and or fit (condenser hoses and drier) for a bit better cooling (now to find a junk compressor at a yard sale for a few bucks and gte my 50.00 core back to get it under 600:D)

I just did a classic air for my buddies 65 B body and it was an awesome fit after taking out the heater core box and putting in the new classic heat/air system. it was about $1130 total and a few bucks more for pag oil and freon for the compressor. all in all a nice unit but a tad expensive in my opinion and before you guys ask no it did not use the existing controls. those were mounted right below the dash above the console.
 
doc540 said:
I understand

Perhaps I can use an original S6 bracket and make a conversion bracket so a rotary will work using both the original S6 bracket AND the conversion bracket.

Thanks for all the helpful input.
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Hit your junkyards and see if you can find a 79 or later car (FMJ body) with a slant 6 and factory AC. The factory bracket is already set up to use the rotary compressor. I have to depend on members maybe having what I need or good old eBay as anything earlier than around 2000 is non-existent in our junkyards.
 
Great info, thanks, gentlemen.

And, 65 Dartman, my Dad who just passed away in February flew a '17 in the 8th.
 
First, stop ranting at those who try to help you.
I posted a year ago or so all slant Sanden brackets I have run across (search).
I have 2 plans for my slant:
Simplest is a York-Sanden bracket bolted to the pwr steering pump pad. Unlike post #19, this is an adjustable bracket, which you can also find on ebay (or google images). A guy here in Maylaysia did similar, but a home-made bracket.
If I later decide to install power steering, I have the Sanden brackets from a JY Volare (post 11 & 23, no ranting like post 13), which includes mount for a Saginaw p.s. pump.
In the cabin, you can mount a vintage under-dash ($50) or a new one ($110). Many condensers can fit and most new ones are the more efficient "parallel-flow" type. Hot rodders use firewall feedthrus for both AC and heater hoses. Hoses are easy if you buy a Master-Cool crimper, and can re-sell when done, or use hose clamps. Aeroquip has "cage-lock" type or similar Oeticker ones work, even worm screw ones work but ain't purty.

BTW, current Sandens are not "rotary". They have pistons, driven by a rotating swash plate. Nippondenso compressors are similar. The latest "7 bolt" Sanden's have 7 double-acting pistons (I think), so you get smooth flow from effectively 14 pistons. Don't fear taking one apart. It is almost impossible to mix up the plates since they only install one way. See youtube. You can also change the rear head to get almost any hose connections you want.
 
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