Well, it's my turn to ask for suggestions..

^^^^^ Let me clear this up for once and for all^^^ I advanced the timing until it turned over very hard. I backed it off slowly, not even using the timing light. I also timed it using the timing light. I will assure you all that I know how to time a car, and I've dealt numerous times with cars with performance cams. Ignition timing is not the car's problem. 2nd, No, it does not have the rotators. Thanks for the replies, this problem is deeper than turning a distributer..... how i wish that was the problem. I will dig more into it next week. Right now, I believe it to be a bad cam, or very badi cam timing. Maybe I a tooth off on the chain, never made that mistake before but nobody is perfect. I will check it out next week