LOL........ but hey, with all of that cam timing errors going around, like a bad case of the flu, I will re-verify for sure. We did degree it with a wheel and dial indicator on the lifter, after ID'ing TDC with the dial indicator (heads off). And double-checked with the new timing pointer. I have managed to escape cam timing errors in 25-30 engines, so hopefully will (for this build) remain one of those who 'will eventually mistime a cam'....as opposed to those who 'have mistimed a cam'. It's kinda like riding motorcycles and having wrecks.....I am a member of the 'has had a wreck' crowd....