First off,I know shu's got a lot of fans. But when I first got a good look at em,I'am thinking "what the hell!" Tri-y's made purely to get the gas out. Come on now,1 and 7,2 and 8 paired up after a long primary tubes.3 and 5,4 and 6 paired up almost at the port. And all pairs firing 180° apart. Thats like having a manifold thats a tunnel ram for 4 cylinders and a low rising duel plane for the other four. Why? It just upsets my sensibilities. I'am done. LOL.