Pete Rose goes down swinging.

Agree. He made a lot of enemies along the Way.
My guess is he won't get in while he's alive to see it. Probably get voted in by the veterans committee after he is gone. Damn shame. He helped kick the Phillies into World Champs. A memory I will always have.

Even then, I doubt he'll get in.

Like I asked about Joe Jackson, who's lifetime are we talking about? Jackson's been dead a while now and Ted Williams argued that point to get Jackson into the Hall. The Hall rejected it, but never defined what a "lifetime" is.

In New York State a life time prison sentence only means forty years and that's the criminal justice system. Should we, as fans, be pushing for a clear definition of what a "lifetime ban" really means?