Got a good one,for ya ,Rob... About '96-'97, a lowrider enthusiast came in with off brand whitewall "lowrider tires " to install & balance on the usual Dayton spokes. They were bias ply white walls,bought through a Lowrider magazine advertisement. I kid you not,the minimal weight amount of one wheel out of the four: 12 ounces, and the rest were much worse.... The kicker: He paid like,three bills for these tires mail order.