sb tuning problems

Lol well most of the people at the beginning said need at least 20 initial timing. Now people are saying its not timing and plugs its the jets and carb size. Different opinions is why i swapped the 850 and bought the 1050 in the first place .

Just because people are recommending more timing and others say the carb is too big or at least needs smaller jets doesn't mean any of them are wrong. They are all correct IMHO. Doing one or the other won't fix all your issues. One solution might improve your issues but you really need to more initial timing with less advance and a correctly jetted properly sized carb to get the best performance/driveabilty out of your engine.