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I know, its not an A body but I got a small herd of them. been wanting another B Body , drug home this slant post car, like all of em, needed rear qtr metal, NOONE repops any worth a hoot. the curves are not exact and I have no English Wheel and probably couldn't have figured how to use one if had it!? Ha

this car was originally gold, it will be a 400 transplant, SS looka like driver. plain jane, with the sled city low profile hood scoop.

I have a gold dart and 2 white a bodies already, don't want another gold or white car. I do all my own body work and the curves at the qtr may not end up being 100 % perfect. a light color will hide more flaws I know, I just have to wonder if I will be happy with painting it BEIGE. that is a non metallic color. pretty light color. nice and plain for a plain car!?

I always go factory look with acrylic urethane, but am thinking of spending that extra $100 for BC/CC......

I asked this question of FBBO, but way more opinions always on here!! ha
 

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I don't care for **** brindle brown. Or Navy office baby vomit. Juz sayin
 
Ya don't see many 2 dr sedan b bodies around anymore. I would go with gold or dk blue.
 
I know, its not an A body but I got a small herd of them. been wanting another B Body , drug home this slant post car, like all of em, needed rear qtr metal, NOONE repops any worth a hoot. the curves are not exact and I have no English Wheel and probably couldn't have figured how to use one if had it!? Ha

this car was originally gold, it will be a 400 transplant, SS looka like driver. plain jane, with the sled city low profile hood scoop.

I have a gold dart and 2 white a bodies already, don't want another gold or white car. I do all my own body work and the curves at the qtr may not end up being 100 % perfect. a light color will hide more flaws I know, I just have to wonder if I will be happy with painting it BEIGE. that is a non metallic color. pretty light color. nice and plain for a plain car!?

I always go factory look with acrylic urethane, but am thinking of spending that extra $100 for BC/CC......

I asked this question of FBBO, but way more opinions always on here!! ha

I would like to know where you are getting a clear coat worth a darn for $100. .....you must have a time machine :D

very cool car, and glad you posted it here. You found out what I already knew, FBBO is a joke.

This is an unusual car and I hope you get it on the road. Makes me think of a insurance salesman of 1967 :farao:
 
I want to stay away from a dark color as it will show any imperfection. like said the curve on the rear qtr, it will be hard to get it perfect as the sorry patch ( only one available) is poor. yes I hate bay blue and don't care for brown, too dark away. I had a buddy decades ago with a factory bronze AAR and it looked pretty good with the black hood and stripe though.

I never have been a fan of any shade of yellow, don't know why.

Miss Rainy, I use TCP Global acrylic urethane and their primers. have had good results with their stuff, I never have used their BC/CC, but I admit buying stupidy high paint has hardly ever been on my plate. decades ago I used top of line PPG or DoPont, but stuff wasn't near so high and I had couple guys do paint that were afforadable or perfect, and doing cars that are actually worth some $$ when sold! lot of difference if you sell a M code runner or a slant dart!? ha

i'm just considering BC/CC if I go with a non poly like that beige. very sleeper lookin that beige, but a scoop on the hood kills any sleeper look too! and a low compression 400 even with good gears is not gonna give me nose bleed! ha

FBBO, well its a totally differ set of cats! some very nice people there, NOT any where near the traffic there, and just a different group, but I have no problem there. I just love the number people here, and never any shortage of opinions here !!

post cars, some of us love em, some people figure they are ugly. I like them, doors shut good!

last car like this Bel I had was bout 2001, 66 coronet, post car, just got it together, changed to a 440 , 8 3/4 , changed the k member, took it out to test and tune on my country rd, part dirt, part blacktop, part LOOSE gravel where the highways guys were fixing, toped a small hill, hit that lose gravel, and rolled it once. I should have kept it, fixed the bent roof, dinged fender, and screwed up front suspension, but I was p*****, so I just parted it out.

3 cracked ribs didn't make me feel any better toward toward the whole deal.

ayway, I figure, white, beige, or that light yellow right now. I just want to order my paint with the primer, ..... got engine at buddies to pickup. pull the slant, weld patch under the usual b body hood hinge area rust, clean, prime, and drop in engine, and make 150 mi trip to buddy for 727. and eat lunch.
nor in that order.
 
I have the same issue with my 67 Belvedere wagon. I need to do something about a right rear quarter that on a wagon has the spare tire well. The bottom of the tire well rusted and a previous owner slapped some fiberglass and body filler over it. As for my suggestion for a color for yours, I would suggest medium tan metallic or medium copper metallic. Both are great looking 1967 colors and neither are dark colors. The medium copper is a one year only color. As for my wagon. it has blue interior, so I will either keep it white or go with a midnight blue metallic. Since I have a white 68 Barracuda and a white 66 Sport Fury, I really don't want to keep the wagon white.
The Belvedere I sedan in the photo is medium tan metallic. The GTX is medium copper metallic (the sedan and the GTX are cars I photographed at Chrysler Carlisle). Don't mix up the medium copper metallic with turbine bronze which was also available in 67. Turbine bronze was darker and had a reddish tint to it. And don't think the medium tan metallic is the same as gold. The gold in 67 had more of a yellowish tint while there is no mistaking the medium tan for a brownish tan color.
Kind of hope you stay away from the non metallic beige (more commonly known as "Old Man Tan").
 

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white would really make a 2 door post car look like a stripper car. Especially with some plain wheels and dog dish caps...maybe a radio delete plate :)
 
I have the same issue with my 67 Belvedere wagon. I need to do something about a right rear quarter that on a wagon has the spare tire well. The bottom of the tire well rusted and a previous owner slapped some fiberglass and body filler over it. As for my suggestion for a color for yours, I would suggest medium tan metallic or medium copper metallic. Both are great looking 1967 colors and neither are dark colors. The medium copper is a one year only color. As for my wagon. it has blue interior, so I will either keep it white or go with a midnight blue metallic. Since I have a white 68 Barracuda and a white 66 Sport Fury, I really don't want to keep the wagon white.
The Belvedere I sedan in the photo is medium tan metallic. The GTX is medium copper metallic (the sedan and the GTX are cars I photographed at Chrysler Carlisle).

I have the same problem with trying to get the spare tire well fixed on a 68 coronet wagon.

I was on the bubble as to which color to paint it because the Brady bunch brown just doesn't cut it. Problem is that 67/ 8 color selection was kinda boring when these cars were new.

as of now I am going to paint the car black because I am confident in my body work. I might change my mind 50 times. Problem with a wagon is you want a color that "pops" yet doesn't look over done.....that is a harder challenge than most people would think it is.
 

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My Dad had that color 67 Belvedere when I was just starting to drive (legally), and I did everything I could to get it.
No go. :D

Still love em.
 
I love that body style. In 1971 I bought a '67 Belvedere I 2 door post, 273 with a 904 and 8 3/4 rear. It was just plain white, and I think I gave $995 off of a used car lot. I ended up putting a 340 in it, tunnel ram with a 4 speed V-gate and 4.30's if I remember right. I had a friend that had a '66 post car, also white, but had a 426 Hemi/727/4.86 8 3/4 in it. Also a tunnel ram car. We built a tow bar set-up for his car, and I'd tow his '66 with my '67 and we'd go street racing. He'd tell potential "victims" that if they could beat the tow car he'd fire his car up.

If you looked real good at the sides of the '66 Hemi car, you could see where it was once lettered STAHL something on the doors. The odometer only showed about 1100 miles on it. God I miss my Belvedere.

Russ.
 
Silver Poly.
Hides alot of imperfections.
Stay with enamel, let it dull out a bit to original!
 
I have the same problem with trying to get the spare tire well fixed on a 68 coronet wagon.

I was on the bubble as to which color to paint it because the Brady bunch brown just doesn't cut it. Problem is that 67/ 8 color selection was kinda boring when these cars were new.

as of now I am going to paint the car black because I am confident in my body work. I might change my mind 50 times. Problem with a wagon is you want a color that "pops" yet doesn't look over done.....that is a harder challenge than most people would think it is.

Actually some of my favorite Mopar colors were 67-68 only colors. Medium Copper Metallic was 67 only. Surf Turquoise Metallic (Dodge's Medium Turquoise Metallic) and Electric Blue Metallic (Dodge's Bright Blue Metallic) were 68 only colors. The blue and turquoise colors changed in 69. B-5 blue has more of a silver tint compared to the 68 bright blue. I hope you keep the wood grain on your wagon even if you change the color to black. There are very few remaining B body wagons with the wood grain trim. The convertible in the photo is the 68 only color of bright blue. the fastback (mine long before I bought it) is the 68 only medium turquoise metallic.
 

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To get back on topic. heres a Light turquoise 67 and a 66 in a color that would be called Medium Tan Metallic in 67. But in 66 I believe it was called copper or bronze.
 

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colors!!!!!!! I know I can dye my doors panels, they are perfect and brown. rather not dye them. I don't have the info. but factory gave recommended combos for inteior panels and ext paint, even though, ( and I;ve had several of the oddball combos not recommended).

silver is interesting, but is a very thin paint. would fear its life. silver and brown panels , NOT! o k a no brainer to dye them.

the code for my bel is YY1 , was a gold ish or tan ish , non poly. which ever you will call it.... like said, I have a gold car and 2 white ones, not that I never sell anything, BUT ....... maybe when i'm dead and gone?

that bronze is pretty with fresh paint but too dark for blems. looks too brownish for me too...

black!? I have one too. 63 dart gt orig black with red interior ( red and maroon actually).. black stays clean all of 1 minute in the city after a wash, here in the sticks, clean for all of 5 seconds!!! ha have ya ever watched the guy at the car show continually dusting off the dust with a BLACK car!! ha..

I keep coming back to that " beige' a off white with a slight tan tint. that's a sleeper color too. don't know....

I love maroon, did my 65 dart in that ( was another orig. gold car) ! ha it was a very rough t***, but turned out well for driver. but that color shows some blems. I love B3 Blue, a 69 or so color, med blue with silver tint, poly, but..............

not a fan of green, but brown panels will go with, used to,,,, no one went back with F8 ( dark green met) but is pretty with fresh paint, but too dark!

I will probably have to beg one of a coupe country body shops near here, that do restos to help me get those rear panels acceptable. they will just say, GET some good metal and start over! but that ain't gonna happen! ha
 
To get back on topic. heres a Light turquoise 67 and a 66 in a color that would be called Medium Tan Metallic in 67. But in 66 I believe it was called copper or bronze.

yes I think that 67 YY1 was called met tan metallic or poly.....

I love the tourqouise, I had a 64 bel hardtop that was that color. also but 200,000 mi on a 95 Ranger few years back, that color too!~ ha
 
I would like to know where you are getting a clear coat worth a darn for $100. .....you must have a time machine :D

very cool car, and glad you posted it here. You found out what I already knew, FBBO is a joke.

This is an unusual car and I hope you get it on the road. Makes me think of a insurance salesman of 1967 :farao:

Summit Racing will sell you clear for less than $100
 
colors!!!!!!! I know I can dye my doors panels, they are perfect and brown. rather not dye them. I don't have the info. but factory gave recommended combos for inteior panels and ext paint, even though, ( and I;ve had several of the oddball combos not recommended).

I looked it up and now I have to laugh. The 67 Belvedere I was only available with three interior color choices. Tan, maroon, blue. That means that most exterior color choices didn't have a recommended interior choice. It just meant that tan interior was the only possible acceptable (not necessarily recommended) choice.

With a black exterior, red or blue interiors were recommended, but tan interior was acceptable. With dark green, light turquoise, dark turquoise, and soft yellow, there were no recommended interior color choices, but tan was the only acceptable choice. For a white, all three interior color choices were recommended. For beige, light tan met. or yellow exterior, tan was the only recommended interior color choice and no other interior colors were acceptable. Other exterior colors like reds, blues and silver only had the other two interior color choices as either recommended or acceptable.

Most interesting is that the limited interior color choices appear to have limited exterior color selection on the Belvedere I. Unlike other B body 67 Plymouths, the Belvedere I wasn't available in turbine bronze, medium copper, dark copper, or gold.
 
Years ago I had a '67 Belvedere II, 383, 2 door post. I couldn't find any parts for it. Luckily the body was rust free and straight. Only thing it needed was a tail light, which I could only find used in Hemmings for $150, which was quite a poking back then. Hopefully, somebody has started making a few reproduction parts for them.
 
Years ago I had a '67 Belvedere II, 383, 2 door post. I couldn't find any parts for it. Luckily the body was rust free and straight. Only thing it needed was a tail light, which I could only find used in Hemmings for $150, which was quite a poking back then. Hopefully, somebody has started making a few reproduction parts for them.

ha! back in the Hemmings days before they wrote car mags!

the limiting factor on these 66-7 b bodies, is only one source for rear qtr patches, the curves are rather poor ( more like p retty darn poor). the usual upholstery, int, battery trays, is available no doubt.

these yr bodies (66-7) are very affordable, the early b's cost more for sure , and we all know the fav's are 68-70, or just try to buy a 68-0 charger!? Ha
 
I looked it up and now I have to laugh. The 67 Belvedere I was only available with three interior color choices. Tan, maroon, blue. That means that most exterior color choices didn't have a recommended interior choice. It just meant that tan interior was the only possible acceptable (not necessarily recommended) choice.

With a black exterior, red or blue interiors were recommended, but tan interior was acceptable. With dark green, light turquoise, dark turquoise, and soft yellow, there were no recommended interior color choices, but tan was the only acceptable choice. For a white, all three interior color choices were recommended. For beige, light tan met. or yellow exterior, tan was the only recommended interior color choice and no other interior colors were acceptable. Other exterior colors like reds, blues and silver only had the other two interior color choices as either recommended or acceptable.

Most interesting is that the limited interior color choices appear to have limited exterior color selection on the Belvedere I. Unlike other B body 67 Plymouths, the Belvedere I wasn't available in turbine bronze, medium copper, dark copper, or gold.

thanks Jim 68 cudsa for the info. my car was black primered by a PO or 2, but orig was that tan ( looks gold to me). Ma Mopar would agree to paint these old cars "other" colors special order. later fender tags showed code 999, and they would put unavailable int panels in there to. had a couple decades ago.

interesting that the Bel 1 only can available with limited paints, but then too, it was the bottom of the barrel $$$ wise, if you wanted a fancy color, I guess they wanted you to buy the sporty hardtop !????ha

I always have liked tan interior, pretty uncommon on most of the B bodies. I guess they made up for all that when they came out with the Gold Duster!!!!!!!!
 
sure beats $1100. for local PPG BC/CC paint.....last time I go to my local store #-o

$1100 would buy me 2 maybe 3 project cars!!!! ha I realize it is top pretty of the line, but sorry, that's NUTS!!!!!!!

I have used PPG years back, painted one 2 yrs ago with their OMNI brand, acrylic urethane. still looks good and it sits outside. I admit to being old school, I do not generally like bc/ CC on these old cars. to me, it does not look right!

not sure why people buy paints from Summit, what the heck do they sell. plenty of "real" paint stores around.
 
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