San Francisco, car killer?

my buddy was a bike messenger in SF for several years - claimed that he could make it anywhere in SF with out climbing any of the real hills (and yes, he rode a fixed gear)

Those hills are tough, credit pishta's sister in the bug. I had a POS 88 Scirocco (worse car I've ever owned) that struggled on the hills and loading up to start on those hills in traffic, sucked