65 BARRACUDA HEADERS?

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Have a 65 barracuda with a 273, looking to put headers on. I see that there are not many options for that year, wondering what the difference is between 65 and 66 headers
 
Shouldn't be any difference in the chassis so the headers (depending on brand) "should" be the same.
 
64-66 should be the same. i have a 66 myself and want to find some also. A member here sold some on ebay a while back i bid on but was outbid, new ones seem better part of a grand for a nice set.
 
DECIPHER said:
64-66 should be the same. i have a 66 myself and want to find some also. A member here sold some on ebay a while back i bid on but was outbid, new ones seem better part of a grand for a nice set.
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Yea ive seen hookers or almost $700, then I see headers from summit for a 1966 at $200 so it may be worth a shot
 
If I was wanting headers on my 65 dart I would look into a used set of spit fire headers they pop up here rarely. Dustin
 
Yeah, some say they will fit...but they don't tell you that cutting a hole in the inner fender is the only way they will fit.
 
I went with dougs on my 64, but if you only have a 273, I suggest you try 340 manifolds or maybe dakota's, unless of course you have power steering, then your options get more limited. I think you have a little more room than I do so good luck.
 
Yea im definitely not looking to cut holes as it is an all original vehicle. it doesn't have power steering so that removes a lot of headaches, if I can find a used pair of dougs then that might be the best option
 
Not sure if this will help, but I have a set of Doug's headers on my 65 Dart. Has a 273 with power steering. Pain to get on an off, but they fit without any cutting.
 
I currently have massaged Dakota manifolds on mine. I also have a set of Laysons ( spitfire ) headers for sale in the "sale" section.
I have changed direction on my build.
 
I have Sanderson dd8s on my 66 barracuda

The issue would be a column shifter. If you a console shifter you should be good

The column shifter required some fab work to the driver side header
 
I have a set of TTI headers on my 66 with power steering. They fit if you follow the directions NO CUTTING. they are not cheap but when it comes to fitment and quality you get what you pay for.
 
Spitfires are no longer being produced by Harold, but Laysons does have the design and sells the same headers! They really shot up in price tho from the $188 shipped that Harold was selling them for! If I'm not mistaken, they are close to $500 now! I have been running one of the first sets that Harold ever made on my car since about 2001, and they do the job just fine! I think I may be the only one who ever got their headers from harold in less than a week! He was using my track kittens car for a test bed, and she was the one who "turned me on" to them, so to speak!!!
 
Harold F'd everyone in line past Cosgig and then sold out to Layson. Damn shame but the design is so primative that anyone could make them with a few stock bends and a chop saw. you see other motors stainless headers from china for $149 on Ebay, why cant someone get Mr. Fongs slaves to weld up some Harolds with the mandatory 1 tiny design change (how about blending that right angle dump into the shared runner?) so they can be sold here without a copyright infringement? (Like that makes a hill of rice difference here...) My SC400 has a similar factory header design with a nasty right angle dump and everyone whoe puts aftermarket headers on these 1UZFE's raves about the breathing difference, being a 4-valve design, they can really rap hard.
 
pishta said:
Harold F'd everyone in line past Cosgig and then sold out to Layson. Damn shame but the design is so primative that anyone could make them with a few stock bends and a chop saw. you see other motors stainless headers from china for $149 on Ebay, why cant someone get Mr. Fongs slaves to weld up some Harolds with the mandatory 1 tiny design change (how about blending that right angle dump into the shared runner?) so they can be sold here without a copyright infringement? (Like that makes a hill of rice difference here...) My SC400 has a similar factory header design with a nasty right angle dump and everyone whoe puts aftermarket headers on these 1UZFE's raves about the breathing difference, being a 4-valve design, they can really rap hard.
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Word was that at the end of Harolds run of them, some people had waited over a year!! I was also on the list when Doug Thorley first decided to start remaking the Ddart headers! They started out a pretty steep $600, and after about a year the price went from $900, to $1200, and I finally bailed about that time!! You just couldn't get anything but manifolds back then!!
 
cosgig said:
Word was that at the end of Harolds run of them, some people had waited over a year!! I was also on the list when Doug Thorley first decided to start remaking the Ddart headers! They started out a pretty steep $600, and after about a year the price went from $900, to $1200, and I finally bailed about that time!! You just couldn't get anything but manifolds back then!!
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I got a set in 2 weeks. The key was to get them shipped COD. That was a long time ago. Never installed them. I sold the car, then sold the headers on CL for $400.
 
cosgig said:
Spitfires are no longer being produced by Harold, but Laysons does have the design and sells the same headers! They really shot up in price tho from the $188 shipped that Harold was selling them for! If I'm not mistaken, they are close to $500 now! I have been running one of the first sets that Harold ever made on my car since about 2001, and they do the job just fine! I think I may be the only one who ever got their headers from harold in less than a week! He was using my track kittens car for a test bed, and she was the one who "turned me on" to them, so to speak!!!
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Has anyone out there actually installed Laysons on a 273 (63 - 66 chassis) with 4-sp, and no PS or PB? Are current Laysons shortys? Anyone have pics?
 
Layson's headers are a direct copy of Harold's Spitfire headers. They were reverse engineered locally in the Seattle area. I've seen the jig and talked to the guy that makes them for Layson's.
 
a friend of mine now passed, art Rasmussen made a set for me about 40 yrs ago. I think i bought a set for a 2nd Gen barracuda, and then we picked up half dozen mandrel u bends, and a case of beer, and we spent a night at Dennis Smythe's shop and we modded them to fit my 64 dart 340 4spd. They worked pretty good. The best I ever ran was 13.0''s @ 104 on JC Penney 7" wide cheater slicks. No PS, manual DB.
 
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