yea the out side always is more , understandably. but if u call jegs or summit and tell them u need 8" wheels, guess where their going to give u measurements from . I`ve ordered 14" cragars, 10" tellstars, 2 sets of 8" prostars-w/ diff offsets and all of them have come w/ the 14-10-8" measurement inside wheel lip to inside wheel lip. local sellers talk about outside measurements around here too. think that's for the street crowd that don`t have , or know how to make room or measure stuff. jmo