Don't understand cams

A different tune isn't going to make a choppy, lopey, radical idle disappear. It may make it more livable.

I've never said widening the LSA didn't affect power. But in the dyno tests I posted in the other thread. The wider LSA made more tq and hp.

340 Head/Cam upgrade before vs after with results

I get that you hate wider LSA cams. We'll agree to disagree.


I don't hate LSA. That's stupid. What I hate is someone repeating error.

I read the above thread.

Who said what is wide and what is narrow? It's like a long rod or long tube header. There is no such thing.

If you are manipulating LSA to fix timing events you are doing it wrong. I know. I have discussed it at with with certain people who don't give a frosty **** if something makes power or not. They want to sell you cam. It's all about marketing. Comp started this **** years ago with the 110 LSA 4 ahead as standard and all the comic books wrote about how sweet it is. In the real world, were your flow bench test, dyno results and time slips must match and matter, then you'd get how stupid it sounds to tell someone to move the LSA to smooth out the idle.

I laugh when I see some of these cams with 5, 8, or 10 degrees of split between the intake and exhaust. You can be sure that most of the time it's a power loser. It's done by the cam grinder who is trying to squeeze more RPM out of a given duration than is reasonable. They jack a bunch of exhaust timing in it (or reduce intake duration....depends on who you ask) and blow the LSA out to try and get The RPM up where they want it. They do this because they think you, the customer, is too stupid to know how often you put your foot in it. They think you are too stupid to tune up your ****. So they do things you normally wouldn't. This actually reduces peak HP, average HP, flattens out the torque curve to the point of killing shift recovery.

I see it all the time. But you can come on the web and tell us how bad *** your **** is.

I spend, on average, an hour on the phone, MINIMUM, before I end up with a cam. If there is no meeting of the minds with the cam grinder, I call another one. Eventually, I either convince them I'm correct, they convince me I'm wrong (it happens quit a bit) or I just tell them to grind what I want and if it sucks, it's on me.

You can ride the LSA thing like the 2 dollar ***** it is. Still won't make you correct.