Need help and info to help out my autistic son with his project

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I know there's alot to it and in time it can all be done right but right now it would make him happy to see the motor and trans going in radiators aren't too expensive but what's going to kill me is the other stuff even the exhaust manifolds that I was told that would fit were over 400 used and throttle pedal and linkage was 250 I know certain things I have to buy for him but why can't like the wheels I bought him for that car be modified to fit there the older style mag wheels I guess I'm blowing this project for him cause I didn't know what we were getting into he did what he could with buying that car body cause no one had anything else he could afford
 
if I recall the 66 and earlier frame is 2" narrower then the 67 and later A's. so don't waste your money on headers. if you can weld land fabricate you have to build your own. go check out the junk yards for stock exhaust manifolds for bigblocks, a few will fit but may not be the same pair. on the wheels you will have to purchase large bolt pattern drums, this is your only option to use your wheels. the trans tunnel will not have to be cut out, only the seem smashed flat. cut the stock motor mounts off and use a motor plate.
 
Brad4406 said:
I've never attempted full fenderwell headers on an early A-body so someone else will have to provide info on that. I've seen members who have had custom sets made for them, but never any that they purchased and then modified.

I posted links below to my header install so far; they are ProParts headers which are being re-manufactured now, but are pricey from the new manufacturer. Please don't believe that I'm saying they aren't worth it; I definitely think they are after having used them on early and late A-bodies, but I can't imagine purchasing them new for something I own. ProParts are a semi-chassis header; in other words, some of the pipes run inside the frame rails and some of the pipes dump into the fenderwells. On the driver side, two pipes go inside and two pipes go outside. On the passenger side, three pipes go inside and 1 pipe goes outside. With these pipes, it is possible to run a 4-speed with a modified bellcrank and also larger tires as not as many pipes are dumping into the fenderwells. To open the pictures in my links, just click on the download icon for them. Unfortunately when I built that thread, it was before the website was upgraded so the pictures do not appear without downloading them. I just used pipe connectors everywhere I cut and rotated a pipe for now until I get around to welding everything in.

65 Barracuda w/500ci 440, Stage VI Max Wedge Port Heads, 4-speed, and 4.10 Posi Dana

65 Barracuda w/500ci 440, Stage VI Max Wedge Port Heads, 4-speed, and 4.10 Posi Dana
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Can u please tell me who to get the headers from I can't find anyone with info on them and then they say they won't fit and there no longer available please this will help out my son thank you
 
Call Hedman Hooker Dougs, Summit Mancini racing Jegs Rock auto every supplier you can think of. Youve asked the same question so many times you could have the answer by calling them by now...sorry
 
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autistic baracuda said:
Can u please tell me who to get the headers from I can't find anyone with info on them and then they say they won't fit and there no longer available please this will help out my son thank you
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No one makes headers for your application!!! As already stated, Proparts are about the closest you'll get to a bolt-on set, but even they will require modification. Plus they expensive (again, as already stated). You can get them from the link posted in post #23. Do you actually read these responses? Click on the link on post #23, get you wallet out, and wait for the package. When it comes, get out the cut off wheel and welder and get ready for some fun.
 
mopowers said:
No one makes headers for your application!!! As already stated, Proparts are about the closest you'll get to a bolt-on set, but even they will require modification. Plus they expensive (again, as already stated). You can get them from the link posted in post #23. Do you actually read these responses? Click on the link on post #23, get you wallet out, and wait for the package. When it comes, get out the cut off wheel and welder and get ready for some fun.
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Proparts aren't even making them anymore are out of business I have no problem modifying a set if I can find a set I see so many pics of 66 barracudas with bigblocks and running headers so there out there just have to hope and pray to find a set for my kid or find someone who makes them
 
autistic baracuda said:
Proparts aren't even making them anymore are out of business I have no problem modifying a set if I can find a set I see so many pics of 66 barracudas with bigblocks and running headers so there out there just have to hope and pray to find a set for my kid or find someone who makes them
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You're correct, ProParts are are out of business. mopowers is also correct that you are not reading previous posts. In post 23 I told you and gave you a link to Bob Mazzolini Racing, the company that is now making them.
 
Yes I've called them and he said they won't work for that body of car what upsets me is all these pics of 66 barracudas with bigblocks and headers and no info on headers where to get them from we tried the exhaust manifold way and there just about the same price and there hard to find too I'm not trying to jerk anyone around this isn't a game I'm really trying to help my autistic son out with this he's already done so much and is just about to put the motor and trans in but with all the other issues he just about gave up those 66 barracudas are out there and there's info from someone that has done one even hooker headers says they won't fit and there's. No propart headers anymore tti aren't available for that body but yet u look online and see several 66 bigblocks barracudas with headers I'll probably have to go with exhaust manifolds even though there very costly but I would perfer to get the headers I don't care about modifying them I'll do that if I can find a set
 
Sorry but the struggles are just beginning for you. You need to rethink this BB dream you have created.
What would you rather see your son with a BB and spent 10's of thousands and be done when??
OR
Small block with good amount of HP be done sooner and actually see him smile over a completed project and $$to spare.
Autistic or not if he was my kid I would at least try to set him straight
Listen to what people are telling you.
Google barracuda owners group
 
Sounds like not much research or planning went into this project, that will ALWAYS cost you more in the end.
 
It wasn't planned to be in that car he had a coronet promised to him after he got the motor then the person backed out for what ever reason then Josh started looking for a body and the only thing he could find with what he had in money was that 66 barracuda he asked around about if a big block would work in it and he was told yes so he bought it not knowing all that was involved
 
Believe me I wish we could of found him a bigger 2 door Dodge car to put it in but the ones we did find was so much money and even in worse shape than the barracuda
 
When you started this thread, I went "Oh no" but didn't say anything.
You have now seen and other's have told you how difficult this engine is to get in this body.
I wouldn't even try it.
Years ago I put an 8 3/4 rear in an A body I was building with the idea of a big block A body.
But decided against it.
Nose heavy, and install problems.
A hot small block is a drop in and made for the car.
I only wonder which he likes more, the body or the engine.
I hope it is the car. Then perhaps he can be made to understand the the engine is only for making the car get from point A to point B and you can go for a 318 or something.
I didn't notice, do you even know the 440 you have is a good engine with out a doubt?
Lots of work for a gamble.
 
adriver said:
When you started this thread, I went "Oh no" but didn't say anything.
You have now seen and other's have told you how difficult this engine is to get in this body.
I wouldn't even try it.
Years ago I put an 8 3/4 rear in an A body I was building with the idea of a big block A body.
But decided against it.
Nose heavy, and install problems.
A hot small block is a drop in and made for the car.
I only wonder which he likes more, the body or the engine.
I hope it is the car. Then perhaps he can be made to understand the the engine is only for making the car get from point A to point B and you can go for a 318 or something.
I didn't notice, do you even know the 440 you have is a good engine with out a doubt?
Lots of work for a gamble.
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Yes he just rebuilt all high perf parts and it's beautiful painted Daytona yellow with all the aluminum assessorys and high rise intake 780 carb 468/488 lift cam and it will have 1.6 ratio roller rockers black 7 qt oil pan to fit that car with a 440 the 727 trans rebuilt with high perf clutch's and steel plates auto/ manual shift valve body and 2400 stall he has done all of this and the head work he's done a nice job but like I said it wasn't planned to be in the 66 barracuda but it was what he found and could afford
 
I think I have to agree with the above suggestion... sell the big block and find a stroker smallblock for his Cuda!! It will be tons easier in the long run, and be a much more manageable car!!!
 
How about someone helping me find him a body near by Calif that would work better for him anyone has a 2 door body for sale that will work with this big block ? He has too much money and time in that motor and trans it's just a bad mistake that he bought this body
 
autistic baracuda said:
Yes I've called them and he said they won't work for that body of car what upsets me is all these pics of 66 barracudas with bigblocks and headers and no info on headers where to get them from we tried the exhaust manifold way and there just about the same price and there hard to find too I'm not trying to jerk anyone around this isn't a game I'm really trying to help my autistic son out with this
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Dude. They said they weren't made for an early A body because THEY AREN'T! That's already been said on this train wreck of a thread.

Read through everyone's responses again, especially Brad4406. Those headers are not designed for early A's, but are about the closest ones out there that exist and can be made to work with some fabrication skills. Do you really think Bob Mazzolini is gonna try to sell you a set knowing you're trying to put them in an early A? Use your head. No one makes headers for BB early A's, period... Any you see on the internet have been custom made, or modified from a set for another application.

Another thing I've seen done is- use log style manifolds and swap sides. Have the exhaust come forward and take the pipes down through the K member and out back. There is a guy Chassisman over on moparts who's son races an early valiant with this set-up.

Honestly, judging by your posts, I think you and your son are in over your head a little. Good luck!
 
Maybe message member "crackedback", he had a nice 69 GTX project for a great price listed here about a month ago or so! He's in Cali!! It's worth a shot!
 
Post the car for sale/trade here. Either the car or the engine has to go. Hopefully you arent upside down in the price of the car. Got pics?
 
I'm not sure what they are worth I'm sure he is upside down in it even the rear window was expensive and I bought mags that would fit under the fender wells and was told they would fit but they don't fit the bolt pattern so that's 300 lost and there 14s any bigger body car will use 15s
 
Sorry I posted anything with the disagree.

autistic baracuda said:
How about someone helping me find him a body near by Calif that would work better for him anyone has a 2 door body for sale that will work with this big block ? He has too much money and time in that motor and trans it's just a bad mistake that he bought this body
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In California, reasonably priced, set up for BB, yep I wouldn't want someone to suggest it either. :)
 
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