Hey Jesse, give me your definition of "straight up" on a camshaft. Just so's I can better understand where you are coming from. 'Cause if you told me straight up I would install it with a 114 ICL
I know where you're coming from Jim. Yes truly straight up would have you retarding the cam a little to show a 114 when using the intake centerline method. I actually meant put them in as they were intended and make sure it checks @ 110 on the ICL method. I actually hate that most cam grinders just grind them in a +4 position--just makes it confusing. So in laymens terms when I think of straight up I think "As intended". I actually just check ICL but set the cam in position by looking at Intake opening and closing to see if it all makes sense. J.Rob