Pulsating Headlights

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Need help from some of you electrical wizards on here. My lights pulsate with engine running regardless of engine speed, idle to whatever. Here's the kicker. When my electric fans come on the pulsating stops and lights are perfectly steady. Any ideas?
 
voltage regulator, check the voltage and see if it verys, and check it when the fan comes on.
 
I would start with the voltage regulator. Adding Crackedback's headlight relay kits are a good idea as well. I have a theory what is happening but I don't want to embarrass myself, oh hell here goes, high resistance in your light circuit (headlight switch or other) is causing the voltage regulator to toggle, once the load increases the VR closes and goes straight on alternator power. Just a thought-------------------
 
Replacing the instrument cluster regulator with a solid state unit fixed it on my Dart.
 
Check your grounds also. Motor to chassis ground can give all kinds of issues !
I had some A/C work done on my 06 Ram Diesel truck. They removed the passenger side battery to gain access to the A/C lines. When I got the truck back, my lights did that same thing. I found that they didn't reconnect the body ground from that battery. I reconnected it and problem solved.
 
[I had an issue not too long ago with my voltage around 15 volts, my headlights were flickering and my voltage gauge was jumping. I fixed it with an adjustable regulator and a relay. Here the wiring diagram I made. Hope that this helps.


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[I had an issue not too long ago with my voltage around 15 volts, my headlights were flickering and my voltage gauge was jumping. I fixed it with an adjustable regulator and a relay. Here the wiring diagram I made. Hope that this helps.


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Does this mod increase the voltage to the ignition blue wire? I run a 130 amp alt and had to use an adjustable vr (the stock vr would charge at 16v) and even with the adjustable vr I still get voltage jumping between 13-14 volts on gauge? Drives me crazy!
 
Does this mod increase the voltage to the ignition blue wire? I run a 130 amp alt and had to use an adjustable vr (the stock vr would charge at 16v) and even with the adjustable vr I still get voltage jumping between 13-14 volts on gauge? Drives me crazy!
The way its drawn, the mod changes only the regulator supplied voltage. To cut that blue or blue w/white, add the relay and upgrade the voltage to every component downstream would be better.
In many models this wire is first branched under the dash to feed the inst voltage regulator before going out to engine bay. That explains one remedy posted above. I'm not saying I would cut in before that inst' regulator. Surely there's enough voltage through the ignition switch to feed that OEM regulator and not pulse a relay coil. And the bottom line, Current into and out of the ignition switch can be the root cause.
 
Does this mod increase the voltage to the ignition blue wire? I run a 130 amp alt and had to use an adjustable vr (the stock vr would charge at 16v) and even with the adjustable vr I still get voltage jumping between 13-14 volts on gauge? Drives me crazy!
I am getting about 13.8 volts now. I am using the adjustable regulator as well. I had it on the car before I put the relay in and the voltage was around 14.6 or so. I used jumper cables to get a good ground and started the car and adjusted the regulator using my Fluke multimeter. Also I didn't mention that I ran a ground wire (just to be sure) from my alternator case to the regulator mounting screw. This mod will assure that the blue wire is at battery voltage and therefore will keep the regulator from overcharging your battery. I believe that the real problem here is dirty/ worn out ignition switch contacts, but this will keep you from having to replace the switch. Let me know if you need help
 
I am getting about 13.8 volts now. I am using the adjustable regulator as well. I had it on the car before I put the relay in and the voltage was around 14.6 or so. I used jumper cables to get a good ground and started the car and adjusted the regulator using my Fluke multimeter. Also I didn't mention that I ran a ground wire (just to be sure) from my alternator case to the regulator mounting screw. This mod will assure that the blue wire is at battery voltage and therefore will keep the regulator from overcharging your battery. I believe that the real problem here is dirty/ worn out ignition switch contacts, but this will keep you from having to replace the switch. Let me know if you need help
Thanks, i`ll try the relay and double check the grounds, anything to stop the voltage jumping! it's not a big deal in the daylight but its crazy how much 1 volt fluctuation makes the lights look stupid!
 
Thanks, i`ll try the relay and double check the grounds, anything to stop the voltage jumping! it's not a big deal in the daylight but its crazy how much 1 volt fluctuation makes the lights look stupid!
I know what you mean, it drove me crazy as well. All can tell you is after this modification my lights are rock solid and my voltage gauge sits at about a perfect 13.8 volts. I know that the battery voltage is 12 volts but when the alternator is charging 13.8 is normal. You know, you can easily try this theory out buy running temporary wire from the battery or starter relay to the center wire on the regulator (terminal I in the diagram). Also make sure that the regulator has a good ground. This would be a temporary test and if it works you would need to install the relay.
 
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I know what you mean, it drove me crazy as well. All can tell you is after this modification my lights are rock solid and my voltage gauge sits at about a perfect 13.8 volts. I know that the battery voltage is 12 volts but when the alternator is charging 13.8 is normal. You know, you can easily try this theory out buy running temporary wire from the battery or starter relay to the center wire on the regulator (terminal I in the diagram). Also make sure that the regulator has a good ground. This would be a temporary test and if it works you would need to install the relay.
Thanks, im gonna try it.
 
Well I`ll be damned! Your fix works! I didnt wire in the relay yet but i did try a jumper from the blue ign feed at the regulator to battery positive and the damn voltage stabilized! I`m still not sure why this works as the voltage reading on the blue ign is only 1/2 a volt lower than battery voltage with key on (figured thats normal loss going thru the ignition switch) and shows 13.5-14.0v with engine running? But surra than **** it stops the voltage fluctuation! If ya ever in the Warwick, RI area let me know, I owe you a beer or three! Thanks!
 
Well I`ll be damned! Your fix works! I didnt wire in the relay yet but i did try a jumper from the blue ign feed at the regulator to battery positive and the damn voltage stabilized! I`m still not sure why this works as the voltage reading on the blue ign is only 1/2 a volt lower than battery voltage with key on (figured thats normal loss going thru the ignition switch) and shows 13.5-14.0v with engine running? But surra than **** it stops the voltage fluctuation! If ya ever in the Warwick, RI area let me know, I owe you a beer or three! Thanks!
Absolutely, I am more than happy to help. I know what a nightmare I went through trying to get mine fixed. It seems like it's an issue with the ignition switch contacts. The relay is an easy install, it should only take you about a half hour. Let me know if you need any help. Happy NEW YEAR!
 
Did you by chance just put your car together after paint? I had to scrape some paint to make good grounds after painting my 66 under hood.
 
I actually ran a 10 gauge wire from the alternator case to the regulator mounting screw and it didn't help. Everything stabilized after I used a relay to feed the regulator my voltage was rock steady at 13.8 voutside and the pulsating/flickering headlights are now stable. Like I said I think that it has to do with dirty/worn ignition switch contacts.
 
I don't mean to cause worry but... The ALT' amps gauge is such a good indicator because all system current is routed through it. When we add relays, jumpers, any manor of bypassing/routing current around that indicator, we may as well have a volts gauge like all those other brands.
But hey, surgeons save lives with coronary bypasses every day. Everyone understands that the route of the problem is still there. Good luck with it.
 
I don't mean to cause worry but... The ALT' amps gauge is such a good indicator because all system current is routed through it. When we add relays, jumpers, any manor of bypassing/routing current around that indicator, we may as well have a volts gauge like all those other brands.
But hey, surgeons save lives with coronary bypasses every day. Everyone understands that the route of the problem is still there. Good luck with it.
I do agree with you that it's a good indicator but it's also a known weak link. All of the current for the car goes through the amp gauge and this would not normally have been an issue back in 1969 but the wiring and bulkhead connections have aged. Couple that with the fact that newer accessories (ignition, higher performance lighting and audio systems) draw a lot more current through these wires and connections and you have a recipe for disaster. I have seen these gauges melt in the dash.. My modifications only effect the voltage going to the regulator. If it's not a steady voltage then charging is going to be erratic and therefore the lights are going to flicker. The MAD alternator gauge bypass is what eliminates the alternator gauge. I have done all of that as well and believe me I like an amp gauge much better but for the above reasons I modified the system.
 
Need help from some of you electrical wizards on here. My lights pulsate with engine running regardless of engine speed, idle to whatever. Here's the kicker. When my electric fans come on the pulsating stops and lights are perfectly steady. Any ideas?

If you are running an MSD or similar, this could be the issue or contributing ... see this thread:

Help with Volt Gauge flicker.
 
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