Milodon Oil pan fitment

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Putting a built 273 in a 71 Dart swinger. Car is an original /6 904 car. I helped a buddy install a magnum based 408 in a 68 barracuda and we had all kinds of issues with the pan hitting the K member. Can anyone tell me if the K member has to be notched or interferes with the pan? PN for pan is 30940 I believe. 8qt deep sump.
 
Yes,you have to notch the k frame on the RH side I think Or lower the k frame but you have to take the T bars out first
 
I bet what your doing looks a lot like these pics

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I absolutely hate that kind of pans, that's why, two hours ago, i ordered a new Canton oil pan for my motor. It has straight sides and it's 9" deep and 7qt. oil capacity.
Canton #15-900.
Edit: Oil pan was ~236$ and pick up was ~75$
 
I bought mine used and I spent at least 2.5 hours trying to get it to fit and gave up and went with a stock pan. I emailed him about it and he says "Oh yeah,I forgot to tell you that you have to notch the k frame" lol. I wasn't going to hack my k frame to use it. Tryu posting the part# and fitment issue and see what others have come up with.
 
dartswinger84 said:
I absolutely hate that kind of pans, that's why, two hours ago, i ordered a new Canton oil pan for my motor. It has straight sides and it's 9" deep and 7qt. oil capacity.
Canton #15-900.
Edit: Oil pan was ~236$ and pick up was ~75$
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Does that hang down real far below the K member. I was told that the Milodon pad widens out so that it doesn't hang down to far.
 
dartswinger84 said:
I absolutely hate that kind of pans, that's why, two hours ago, i ordered a new Canton oil pan for my motor. It has straight sides and it's 9" deep and 7qt. oil capacity.
Canton #15-900.
Edit: Oil pan was ~236$ and pick up was ~75$
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They look sweet. have you used them before? that looks like a possible solution.
 
chrissock said:
Does that hang down real far below the K member. I was told that the Milodon pad widens out so that it doesn't hang down to far.
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The k-frame notch required is very small and the pan doesn't hang that low. Carbide bit on a air grinder, your done in 5 min. Here`s how low the 30935 Milodon pan hangs on mine.
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I've got an 8qt Milodon on my 69 dart. Didn't have to do any notching but mines not the kicked out, low profile pan. Of course I don't have a lot of ground clearance either. Been on there for 30yrs and still no dents so I guess the clearance is adequate.lol
 
Milodon's 8 qt. small block pan required the notch in all A-body applications that I've seen, but their 7 qt. may not. (I just never ran the 7 qt.) The Milodon 8 qt. is a little shallower than the Moroso 8 qt. so better ground clearance. (In pic.)
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TTI headers will fit with any of those pans. But there are some Hedman and Hooker headers that will not work with the Milodon 8 qt. because of the kickout. Stiff front shocks can help prevent dents in deep pans, but most OEM style replacements seem on the soft side on compression as well as on extension. All the manufacturers should have the depth of their plans listed.
 
Milodon 30935 oil pan is 8.75" deep, and Canton is 9", so the sump doesn't hang too low.
 
I used a Milidon pan in my Magnum swapped '68 Barracuda. The pan barely hangs below the K-member, and I did have to notch the flange of the K-member ever so slightly.

Here's a picture of the pan. Not sure why you would need a pan to hang down more, unless it's a dedicated drag strip only car.

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Back when my father and I built the 340 for the dart, the deep pans were about all that was available. The Milodon has the stock contours, but a really deep sump. Wasn't alo t to choose from back in the 80s early 90s
 
chrissock said:
Does that hang down real far below the K member. I was told that the Milodon pad widens out so that it doesn't hang down to far.
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Yeah. It does big time. Why a lot of guys like me buy the Milodon. It's no big deal notching the k frame. Actually simple and 15 minutes, IF you weld in a boxing piece, grind it real nice and paint. 5 minute job otherwise.
It's like I been telling kids, please don't drag your pans on the ground!
 
9" vs. 8.75" Hmm....not that big difference.
But maybe you have some another reasons why use another style pan:
-Price
-In this situation, Canton is a bit smaller, but 7qt. of oil is enough up to 8000rpm. (At least)
-Maybe you have a nice painted/powdercoated k-frame and you dont want to cut it.
-You need header clearance, (for example: 1 7/8"hooker headers hits to the milodon 30935 pan, mine did).

IMO, 10" Moroso is too deep.
Charlies makes great pans. And price is reasonable and you get what ever you want.
 
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dartswinger84 said:
9" vs. 8.75" Hmm....not that big difference.
But maybe you have some another reasons why use another style pan:
-Price
-In this situation, Canton is a bit smaller, but 7qt. of oil is enough up to 8000rpm. (At least)
-Maybe you have a nice painted/powdercoated k-frame and you dont want to cut it.
-You need header clearance, (for example: 1 7/8"hooker headers hits to the milodon 30935 pan, mine did).

IMO, 10" Moroso is too deep.
Charlies makes great pans. And price is reasonable and you get what ever you want.
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Or what about the obvious...Milldon pans are lousy quality
Rumor has it they test their welds with water instead of something that flows like oil, and so even though thier welds hold water, they weep oil
 
Those pans will clear if you drop the k member about an inch. No notching needed , much harder to do with the transmission installed by it still can be done.
 
diymirage said:
Or what about the obvious...Milldon pans are lousy quality
Rumor has it they test their welds with water instead of something that flows like oil, and so even though thier welds hold water, they weep oil
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Wow. Didn't know that. Been running mine since 2010 on 3 different engines and still...I could park that car on a white rug. Maybe I got lucky. was just going to order another for my new bullet, but now ya got me thinking....
 
I'll see if I can find the original post that mentioned that...but I got a feeling dropping "milodon" into the search box will tell you all you need to know
 
Mines been parking in the same spot for over 15years and there's not a drop of oil to be found anywhere. Then again the pans over 30years old from a time when people cared a little about making a quality part. Over the past 10 years, I've used several Milodon pans on alky burning Chevy circle track motors. No complaints on any of those
 
I do remember one guy bashing them, but if I recall the fellow sorta bashed everything and everyone......
 
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