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sabre67

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OK I'm watching Graveyard Carz, for the cars not for the guys working there I wanna make that clear. The owner paints a 1970 340 engine orange with the exhaust manifolds on ? Is it correct from factory to paint exhaust manifolds engine color? did they come that way from new? Thanks:wtf:
 
Yep. I thought it was wrong too till a die hard mopar guy told me it was correct. I imagine after years it would eventually flake or burn off
 
I thought it was just overspray that got on the manifolds during the painting as opposed to painting the complete manifold.
 
Yes it was more like over-spray. Usually only the top and sides were engine color. The rest was left to rust and flake off.
 
i'm really liking this season of gyc - the cars and assembly segments are great. yea, worman is still doing his little "schtick" but it's not as over the top as when the show began. i do like the focus on more minute details of various parts. i hate to admit it, but i do usually learn something from each episode. i consider myself pretty knowledgeable on 68-71 mopars but i do not have anywhere near the information as worman seems to have. i have to tip my hat to him on that point.

this is a little off topic but i'll share anyway. when i re-did my 68 barracuda i purchased a can of reproduction red "Mopar engine paint" from Year One. since i'm an "old school bodyman" from many years ago, i thought i knew what i was doing. i sanded and prep-soled the parts, shook the can for about a minute than applied what i thought was a very nice "rattle can spray job." i went back to some other areas on the car and let the parts "dry" for about an hour. when i went over to pick them up i tested the cardboard overspray just to be safe and it rubbed off on my finger like i had just sprayed it!! the garage temp was around 70 degrees and i couldn't understand what was going on. so i left the parts for another two hours, came back and they were "tacky" but still too wet to pick up. so i left the damn things on the cardboard OVERNIGHT! the next day the parts could be picked up but i still had to be careful not to scratch or fingerprint them. i then put them down and left them for several days. after these parts had "dried" for about 5 days, they were hard and dry to the point of being safe to handle.

a few days after the spray can incident, i found myself down at a local NAPA Auto Parts store BSing with one of the "old geezers" still working there and told him my engine paint story. he started laughing at me which caused me to say: "Why are you laughing at me?" the NAPA guy went on to ask me if i had put a floor fan on the parts after i had painted them. i told him "No." he went on to explain that all spray can paints now are water based and if you don't put a fan on the parts to keep air flowing - they will never dry. STUPID ME - i knew that VOC compound laquer/enamel "gallons/quarts" of mix-up paint had been "outlawed" years ago but i thought the spray cans were still the same. THEY ARE NOT THE SAME AS THEY USED TO BE! - at least the ones Year One sells are not the same.

so for you "youngens" out there (or you old geezers like me who still think they know about painting cars when we really don't any longer) - if you're going to paint engine parts with "hot-paint" OEM factory colors with a "rattle-can" - put a fan on the parts after you paint them. if you do, you won't have to wait a WEEK to reinstall the newly painted parts.

just thought i'd share an embarrassing story....
 
i'm really liking this season of gyc - the cars and assembly segments are great. yea, worman is still doing his little "schtick" but it's not as over the top as when the show began. i do like the focus on more minute details of various parts. i hate to admit it, but i do usually learn something from each episode. i consider myself pretty knowledgeable on 68-71 mopars but i do not have anywhere near the information as worman seems to have. i have to tip my hat to him on that point.

this is a little off topic but i'll share anyway. when i re-did my 68 barracuda i purchased a can of reproduction red "Mopar engine paint" from Year One. since i'm an "old school bodyman" from many years ago, i thought i knew what i was doing. i sanded and prep-soled the parts, shook the can for about a minute than applied what i thought was a very nice "rattle can spray job." i went back to some other areas on the car and let the parts "dry" for about an hour. when i went over to pick them up i tested the cardboard overspray just to be safe and it rubbed off on my finger like i had just sprayed it!! the garage temp was around 70 degrees and i couldn't understand what was going on. so i left the parts for another two hours, came back and they were "tacky" but still too wet to pick up. so i left the damn things on the cardboard OVERNIGHT! the next day the parts could be picked up but i still had to be careful not to scratch or fingerprint them. i then put them down and left them for several days. after these parts had "dried" for about 5 days, they were hard and dry to the point of being safe to handle.

a few days after the spray can incident, i found myself down at a local NAPA Auto Parts store BSing with one of the "old geezers" still working there and told him my engine paint story. he started laughing at me which caused me to say: "Why are you laughing at me?" the NAPA guy went on to ask me if i had put a floor fan on the parts after i had painted them. i told him "No." he went on to explain that all spray can paints now are water based and if you don't put a fan on the parts to keep air flowing - they will never dry. STUPID ME - i knew that VOC compound laquer/enamel "gallons/quarts" of mix-up paint had been "outlawed" years ago but i thought the spray cans were still the same. THEY ARE NOT THE SAME AS THEY USED TO BE! - at least the ones Year One sells are not the same.

so for you "youngens" out there (or you old geezers like me who still think they know about painting cars when we really don't any longer) - if you're going to paint engine parts with "hot-paint" OEM factory colors with a "rattle-can" - put a fan on the parts after you paint them. if you do, you won't have to wait a WEEK to reinstall the newly painted parts.

just thought i'd share an embarrassing story....

Water base? Latex? The "rattle cans" of engine paint that I have...came from our local O'Reilly's and it darn sure isn't water base. (flammable Hi-temp enamel) Have I "mis-read your post? VOC Compound not allowed in Pennsylvania?
Norm
 
hey circlepilot...
in Pennsylvania, you CANNOT buy ANY "custom mixed" enamel or lacquer based paint in gallon cans. all auto paint sold here is either water based or several step and additive paint. you can buy a limited selection of PPG (Pittsburgh Plate Glass) "factory mixed" enamel auto paint but it is like $1000 a gallon. you can still buy "some" enamel paint in quarts as "pre-mixed" factory "non-auto" paint for painting farm equipment or metal items. there appears to be a mixture of types of paint in spray cans at auto parts stores, home depot or lowes or ace hardware or walmart from water base to enamel base paint. there is NO lacquer paint ANYWHERE in any form to purchase. i suspect the reason why Year One spray engine paint is water based is so they can sell it in california. the point i was trying to make (and not very well) was that buying spray cans of paint is not a simple thing these days. most auto parts stores do have enamel "hot paint" engine paint in chevy orange or ford red and some even have mopar orange. but not many places still have mopar "red" which was the color i needed for my 68 340. when i painted my 68 barracuda, i painted it with old school lacquer paint. there was only ONE place in the U.S. that i was able to find this paint and that was (believe it or not) san diego california at a specialy auto paint company called TCP Global TCP Global Corporation - Quality & Service Since 1974 they are NOT allowed to sell lacquer auto paint to anyone in CA but they can ship to other states. TCP also has old school enamel paint but it is very expensive. for all you old guys out there, the world of paint today is not anywhere close to what we knew 30 years ago. whatever you're trying to paint these days, you may need heat lamps and fans to be able to do it - and that is if you even know "how" to mix and use the current paint products.
 
hey circlepilot...
in Pennsylvania, you CANNOT buy ANY "custom mixed" enamel or lacquer based paint in gallon cans. all auto paint sold here is either water based or several step and additive paint. you can buy a limited selection of PPG (Pittsburgh Plate Glass) "factory mixed" enamel auto paint but it is like $1000 a gallon. you can still buy "some" enamel paint in quarts as "pre-mixed" factory "non-auto" paint for painting farm equipment or metal items. there appears to be a mixture of types of paint in spray cans at auto parts stores, home depot or lowes or ace hardware or walmart from water base to enamel base paint. there is NO lacquer paint ANYWHERE in any form to purchase. i suspect the reason why Year One spray engine paint is water based is so they can sell it in california. the point i was trying to make (and not very well) was that buying spray cans of paint is not a simple thing these days. most auto parts stores do have enamel "hot paint" engine paint in chevy orange or ford red and some even have mopar orange. but not many places still have mopar "red" which was the color i needed for my 68 340. when i painted my 68 barracuda, i painted it with old school lacquer paint. there was only ONE place in the U.S. that i was able to find this paint and that was (believe it or not) san diego california at a specialy auto paint company called TCP Global TCP Global Corporation - Quality & Service Since 1974 they are NOT allowed to sell lacquer auto paint to anyone in CA but they can ship to other states. TCP also has old school enamel paint but it is very expensive. for all you old guys out there, the world of paint today is not anywhere close to what we knew 30 years ago. whatever you're trying to paint these days, you may need heat lamps and fans to be able to do it - and that is if you even know "how" to mix and use the current paint products.

Wow!...I didn't know that it has gotten that restrictive.
 
DupliColor...Chrysler Industrial Red
Available all over around here, and it was a perfect match for my '64 Slant Six.
 
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