Starter Relay

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dale_brennon

dale_brennon

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So I read I just re-wired my Demon with a painless kit, went to turn the key over to check the starter engagement and nothing...I checked the relay and I get power from the battery, and when the key rolls over power appears on the ignition wire and neutral safety wire. I read on a few forumns from ford that the I portion of the relay was used for points, which is where I had the ignition wire originally. Being that I am running MSD, I took that wire and touched the starter soleinoid terminal and the starter engaged. My question is, is this the proper way the relay is to be hooked up if you are not running points, and if not what's the correct way when switching from points?
 
Why ford???

Relay is simple. I is +12v from ignition switch in start, G is ground from neutral safety. If you have both at the same time the relay transfers battery voltage to the starter solenoid.
 
what factory harness do you need. why Painless. I had a car here with a painless harness what a mess it was. I trashed it and installed a soft original harness. Just the name painless make me wonder . I also used a Cummins conversion harness from painless. I had to get a mopar tech here from Reagle Dodge. We had to overlap the original harness with the painless and Run both to get the intake heaters to work. Nothing is ever painless from them although I do like there looming. but very Pricey

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I googled the issue and it was a ford forum that came up, I have the relay wired correctly, and when you turn the key the 12v is there, but the tab that has the solenoid wire is cold. So obviously something isn't right. Like I said before, I put the 12v on the same table as the wire leading to the solenoid, and the starter turned over, could it be a faulty relay?
 
1969383S said:
Why ford???

Relay is simple. I is +12v from ignition switch in start, G is ground from neutral safety. If you have both at the same time the relay transfers battery voltage to the starter solenoid.
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This.
Do you have an automatic with at neutral safety switch?
Ground that terminal out.
Put 12 volts on the ignition terminal.
Either by your key switch or a jumper to be sure.
The relay should pull in. You may hear a click.
Then the two big terminals should pass 12 volts between them to the starter.
If you supplied power to your starter some other way and it turned over.
Look at these other basic items.
As stated, your "ignition" (sparking system) has nothing to do with the above.
 
dale_brennon said:
I googled the issue and it was a ford forum that came up, I have the relay wired correctly, and when you turn the key the 12v is there, but the tab that has the solenoid wire is cold. So obviously something isn't right. Like I said before, I put the 12v on the same table as the wire leading to the solenoid, and the starter turned over, could it be a faulty relay?
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Yes it could.

When the relay energizes it switchs battery voltage to the solenoid. If you jump the big poles with a jumper and the starter engages then the wiring to starter is good. You can disconnect the battery feed and solenoid and check for continuity between the two posts on ingintion start to confirm the relay is functinal.
 
1969383S said:
Yes it could.

When the relay energizes it switchs battery voltage to the solenoid. If you jump the big poles with a jumper and the starter engages then the wiring to starter is good. You can disconnect the battery feed and solenoid and check for continuity between the two posts on ingintion start to confirm the relay is functinal.
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if i have a faulty neutral safety switch or if its going bad, could that cause the ign system to die in mid cruise? or cause a no spark situation at startup?
I also think my shifter linkage is loose and causing the switch to cut the engines spark. Any help or ideas guys?
 
rickdick78 said:
my shifter linkage is loose and causing the switch to cut the engines spark
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fix this!!!^^
Also, these after market wiring kits can be weird with the way they hook up power - not trying to be an *** - did you follow the directions to the letter? I did an EZ Wire system several years ago and my Mopar brain kept over-riding what I was reading... it took me three try's before I went back and did it "right" (followed the directions) and boom.. the car ran. I don't recall exactly what it was but it had to do with hooking up power - two things went to the same place which seemed weird so I fought it. Like I said, as soon as I decided to try it the way the directions said, all was good.
 
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