Paying With PayPal And Asking For No Fee's

-
I will pay it as F&F if someone asks but it's kind of annoying that they didn't price in a little extra to cover all the costs associated with selling on a non-local forum.
 
If you are buying a product and you use the friends and family option, that's dishonest. Period. I won't do it. I also won't buy from someone who wants payment that way. What else will they lie about?
 
I don't have the time to read through all the posts but the way I see it, pay as a friend and take a chance, pay with a charge and have some insurance. Just like my business, I have been doing a lot more charge/credit card transactions over the last couple years. The 2.75% charge fee doesn't sound like much but it amounts to a thousand dollars per year or so out of my back pocket. Do youself and your Mopar brethren a favor and don't be a cheap ***. Pay a little extra for a charge fee or some insurance that if something goes wrong that you have a leg to stand on.
 
The cost of doing business...
Send someone money as a gift and you just gave them the money with no strings attached.
Whatever I sell, I know 3% goes to PayPal. I know this up front and take that in to account.
Whatever I buy, I know the seller gets hit with a 3% fee.
If a seller wants me to pay the 3%... I can choose to pay it or pass. Easy Peasy.

When you use PayPal to pay for goods, you get some level of buyer protection.

I won't pay with a "Gift" and I won't mail Cash either...
Fees can always be negotiated.

----o00o--'(_)'--o00o----
 
Well, IMO I'd rather pay the "fees" and get the "protection" they offer than scam Paypal out of 3% and risk losing all my money, JMHO.

I have no problem sending the money as a "gift" if it is someone I know and/or trust, but I never would to a total stranger. Seen too many people get screwed that way.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
agree w/ this. no buyer protection as a gift. you`ll not talk me into it.
 
I don't have the time to read through all the posts but the way I see it, pay as a friend and take a chance, pay with a charge and have some insurance. Just like my business, I have been doing a lot more charge/credit card transactions over the last couple years. The 2.75% charge fee doesn't sound like much but it amounts to a thousand dollars per year or so out of my back pocket. Do youself and your Mopar brethren a favor and don't be a cheap ***. Pay a little extra for a charge fee or some insurance that if something goes wrong that you have a leg to stand on.
did u guys figure it up ? seems like they charge me a little over 3% most of the time. one time it was closer to 4% ????
 
You know 4spdragtop I have paid just about everybody on this site that I have bought parts from using the friends and family just so they are not hit with the 3% and because I send it using my PayPal balance from my account I am never charged the 3% either, this is why I suggested using it. I agree with you Commando66 it does seem a little tacky to say ad 3% for fee's. And Rusty I thought we were all friends here on this site "well most of us are anyway" so why the lying about sending money to a friend? One more thing so let's say a member is selling something that I want so I buy it and send him or her the 3% above and beyond the asking price no questions asked just wanting to cover the fee, but the member has already figured in the 3% in his or her asking price now I have paid 6% and don't even know it. This seems like a touchey subject, you are dambed if you do and dambed if you don't. You know for years I have paid and received payment this way and have never had an issue until the other day when I lost a sale because of asking him to pay with no fee's.
Bob
 
What? If I buy something that you have for sale abodyjoe and everything works out well and I send you the money via PayPal as a friend am I lying? Because you and I are doing business we might not be personal friends who go out and have a few beers now and then, but I do consider you a friend, let's say a forum friend that I can count on to buy from or get information from. Is that wrong or right? I can see your point, sending money that way to someone who I have never had contact with or will never comunicate with again would not be a good idea, but on here with someone who is on this site all the time and has nothing but positive feedback whats the risk?
Bob
 
Geof I have bought a few parts from you over the years, most of the time I need to go for a cruise in the Barracuda so I drive out pay you pick up the parts and go back home. But if you have something that I am interested in and can't drive out and you mail it to me then I am going to pay you with PayPal using friends, I don't want it costing you or me any more . Is that wrong, is that lying?
Bob
 
OK Rusty you are on here all the time and you buy and sell also. Lets say you are selling something and I am interested in it so I contact you we work out a deal both parties are happy with it and I send you the PayPal payment using friends so there is no fee, are you going to tell me that I can't buy it because I am lying that you are a friend? How about if at the end of our conversation I say "Thank You Rusty, you are truly a friend" Does that make a difference?
Bob
 
I buy and sell parts all the time. If I am buying from you and using PayPal to send the money I usually send it as sending money to friends or family so there are no fee's to either you or me. I have seen some members who ask for the 3% to be added to the price of the item to cover the PayPal fee's but if you pay with funds already in your PayPal account to friends or family then no one has to pay the 3% fee. I think PayPal makes enough money as it is without hitting us up for another 3% to use our own money. The only reason I am bringing this up is because one of our members said he felt uncomfortable paying this way and the deal was lost. I have never had this happen before usually when I ask to please send the payment without fee's the other member know's exactly what I mean and the transaction is completed wether they add the 3% or pay the way I do. Which way do you guy's prefer if you are selling or buying, I don't want to loose any more sales because I ask for no fee's.
Bob
buying from people you dont know via the family and friends options is a VERY VERY bad idea. This is how rip-offs happen as the buyer has no recourse via paypal if something goes bad. I will not pay that way and as a buyer, I simply add 3% to cover it, that's just 3 extra bucks on each 100 so its worth it to me to ensure recourse. Also, as a seller, I've never asked anyone to pay that method.
 
OK Rusty you are on here all the time and you buy and sell also. Lets say you are selling something and I am interested in it so I contact you we work out a deal both parties are happy with it and I send you the PayPal payment using friends so there is no fee, are you going to tell me that I can't buy it because I am lying that you are a friend? How about if at the end of our conversation I say "Thank You Rusty, you are truly a friend" Does that make a difference?
Bob
I think the friends and family option is not to purchase products or pay for services but to send money to friends or family in need, like sending your nephew $20 for his birthday or $500 to get your brother out of jail. lol If you're purchasing something you should use the regular fee option. Along with that you get some insurance that if the transaction goes wrong PP will go to bat for you and help get your money back.
 
AND fyi, paypal has recently started charging to send via family and friends. I sent my brother 50 bucks for Christmas, he's deployed and figured he'd rather have cash than a gift shipped to an amphib ship. It charged me the 3% because I didn't have money in the paypal account at the time and used my bank to upload it, then transfer.
 
Ok I see this going back and forth so it is time to say one name that gives us all reason to send it for goods. Justin.............People trusted him also.
 
Ok I see this going back and forth so it is time to say one name that gives us all reason to send it for goods. Justin.............People trusted him also.
Yep.... Justin Figgatt aka Mike Renn aka April Renn...aka Mopar Mike did i miss any of his surnames?
 
Paypal or not still can get scammed. My son lost $1800 hard earned, on a Mustang supercharger he never recieved. Little to no investigation from Paypal.
No more for me.
Anyhow, for big money items to buy or sell, I always use Bank to Bank transactions.
Thats security......... and very simple.
 
One way or another the buyer always pays the fee so you might as well figure it into the asking price.

From a buyer's perspective, final price paid is what matters most, not what the seller is looking to make of the item. If you want to get $50 for something that'll cost $10 to ship, figure in the 3% and add shipping and go from there. That'd be $61.50. You could price it at $65 PP'd & shipped and let somebody talk you down a few bucks so they feel like they're getting a better deal.

Net pricing is important to the seller, but gross pricing is important to the buyer. Make things easier for the buyer and you'll have an easier time selling stuff. Asking for the buyer to calculate, as well as pay, fees and shipping WILL put off some buyers (myself included).

Like I said, in the end the buyer is the one paying. Just figure it in the price and advertise it as PP'd and shipped. It's hassle-free and easy for the buyer.
 
Paypal or not still can get scammed. My son lost $1800 hard earned, on a Mustang supercharger he never recieved. Little to no investigation from Paypal.
No more for me.
Anyhow, for big money items to buy or sell, I always use Bank to Bank transactions.
Thats security......... and very simple.


Has your son filed a claim with PayPal? Sellers are required to provide a tracking number and if the package doesn't get delivered then the buyer gets a refund. I've gotten refunds before from PayPal and it was easy.
 
OK Rusty you are on here all the time and you buy and sell also. Lets say you are selling something and I am interested in it so I contact you we work out a deal both parties are happy with it and I send you the PayPal payment using friends so there is no fee, are you going to tell me that I can't buy it because I am lying that you are a friend? How about if at the end of our conversation I say "Thank You Rusty, you are truly a friend" Does that make a difference?
Bob
Buyers that do that aggravate me. A notice of a "gift" via email from paypal wont include the senders mailing address since there's no need for it. I'll have to come back here to messages and ask, "Where on earth should I send this?". ( A crook wont ask for the address. He don't need it ).
Please don't do me any favors.
 
If you are buying a product and you use the friends and family option, that's dishonest. Period. I won't do it. I also won't buy from someone who wants payment that way. What else will they lie about?
My opinion is this is not dishonest at all. The 3% is the purchase of insurance. If you don't choose to buy the insurance, then send as a "gift/friend".
I have bought many things from FABO (even though my feedback score doesn't reflect it) and never have been scammed. Most of my transactions have not been a lot of money, and I've sent as a "friend" because that's how I see most of this site. I chose not to buy PayPal's insurance. That's how I see it anyways.
Trust me, Paypal makes a lot of money off of what I've sold on ebay, and continue to sell.
 
My opinion is this is not dishonest at all. The 3% is the purchase of insurance. If you don't choose to buy the insurance, then send as a "gift/friend".
I have bought many things from FABO (even though my feedback score doesn't reflect it) and never have been scammed. Most of my transactions have not been a lot of money, and I've sent as a "friend" because that's how I see most of this site. I chose not to buy PayPal's insurance. That's how I see it anyways.
Trust me, Paypal makes a lot of money off of what I've sold on ebay, and continue to sell.

I don't need a crystal ball to know its just a matter of time. And afterwards all that trust disappears in a heartbeat, gone forever. The only variable is how much you loose / how deep you're screwed. For me it was 80 USD, many years ago. At that time I was alllll bent outa shape over it. In time it became a valuable lesson learned in my mind.
 
-
Back
Top