I might have agreed with this until i ran a set with an automatic. These let you cam the engine heavy and still have tractable idle for accessories like auto and AC. I am building a 4 speed 383 car with ac now and chose rhoads lifters to tone down the idle to make it easier to drive on the street. I love the way it smoothly builds power as it all comes back by 3000 or so. Late model cars accomplish this with roller cams that can use a much steeper cam lobe to keep idle good. Rhoads lifters give engine builders roller cam type impact at a fraction of the cost.