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Shorty Thompson

Shorty Thompson

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First off let me say if this is not the place to post this . Please point me in the right direction . Don't berate me .
Thanks

First off I got a '72 Demon that ,,,,, I bought without a title . the gent i got it off of I took honestly , but am not liking that it's taking so long to get 1 . I'm figuring that the gent he got it off of is toying with him. So ,,,,,,,,,I wanna strike out on my own and get 1 without getting a bond title for it . It'd just kill me to have someone show up and claim that it's they're car with a title and take it after I put a lot of money into it , as well as labor . Anyone have any,,,,,,,,, suggestions ?
 
Best advice is do not hand any money over other than possibly a deposit until the title comes with the car.

Once a guy has all the money for a car with no title he has not motivation to help you.

Go to the state & ask for the bonded title form, as part of the process they try to contact the last titled owner.
 
Alaskan_TA said:
Best advice is do not hand any money over other than possibly a deposit until the title comes with the car.

Once a guy has all the money for a car with no title he has not motivation to help you.

Go to the state & ask for the bonded title form, as part of the process they try to contact the last titled owner.
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Yeah I know , and knew better . But the price was too good to pass up . I got a shout out to a title company locally . They might be able to help ( fingers crossed ) . Threw out a text to guy in Alabama thought I'd try that route . That was stopped dead in it's tracks as they now have a new commissioner that requires a visual if the car hasn't been registered within the last 15 years and I have no idea when it was last licensed.
 
your insurance company can do a records check easier and further back then dmv can do . just send a letter to the last known addresses , tell them you have a storage lean on the car , get them to sign away their right to you on it . that is dmv needs that info .
 
Here, you might review THIS:

WOW Stolen Cuda found

.........and this........

stolen Cuda found,cops refuse to get it back - Yellow Bullet Forums

This is why we have titles, and why they are important

Having said that, a story from "the old days"

Around 1967 I bought a 57 Chev with a blown up engine from two travelling guys from S Dakota. They did not have the title, but they did eventually send it. In the meantime, I drove it "somewhat illegally" on the current S Dakota plate, of which there was only one

This was before I went in the Navy, and worked as a "police dispatcher" for the local city PD, "graveyard." One late nasty fall evening, for NO reason, a friend of mine drove from Sandpoint to Priest River and ended up going for a cup of coffee.

You drove down a very short very steep hill....off the highway......to a stop sign in the "center of town." There we were, stopped at that stop sign, looking across the street, trying to see if the cafe was open, or what. We must have sat there stopped for 15-20 seconds or more. It was dark, probably 7PM in late fall

We parked the car, and were walking towards the cafe. Along comes a constable/ city cop, who says like this here:

"Uh, I see you boys are from out of town. You just jump right back into that Chevy and keep going, and I won't have to arrest you for running that stop sign"

Well, something just "clicked" in my brain. Or went "bang," maybe. I looked at that cop, and I said, "I was born and raised in Sandpoint, and in fact I'm the midnight to 8 radio operator. We are going to have some coffee, and then we are going back to Sandpoint, where I work later tonight."

With that I turned and walked away, leaving the cop standing there wondering ?????

Our then Chief. This must have been after I joined the Navy, we had no TTY when I left

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The day operator. I can't remember her name, she was very well thought of

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pomonamissel said:
your insurance company can do a records check easier and further back then dmv can do . just send a letter to the last known addresses , tell them you have a storage lean on the car , get them to sign away their right to you on it . that is dmv needs that info .
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Had no idea . I'll definately look into that .
 
All depends on your state laws. In Oregon you have to have a title and bill of sale to register if not in your name. YOur best bet is try to track down the last registered person and have them file for a lost title then transfer it to you.
 
dano said:
All depends on your state laws. In Oregon you have to have a title and bill of sale to register if not in your name. Your best bet is try to track down the last registered person and have them file for a lost title then transfer it to you.
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Tried that . Got back to Kansas and stopped dead in my tracks . Contacted KDOR and they want to know the name of the guy that sold it to me , or for him to contact them and register it . I don't even know his name .
 
Does anybody know of a national data base that I could contact to run the vin code ?
 
National Motor Vehicle Title Information System

worth a try.

If its "fallen off the books" at your state motor vehicle you may have to go the bonded title route.
I've done that a couple times with no issues.
$50 bond cost, $20 vehicle inspection, $4 title cost.
Had absolutely no paperwork, zero, zilch, nada.
Of course every state is different.
 
Every state is different, you can only use information from people that have done this in your state. In California, as long as you have a bill of sale and the title isn't in the system in someone other than the seller's name (and not stolen, of course) you can get a title. It requires an inspection at the DMV, but if the VIN and VIN stampings match it's actually not a big deal. I've bought a few cars with a bill of sale and had no issues getting a title. In some states it's pretty much impossible, if you don't have a title you have a parts car, period. And in some states cars that are old enough don't even get issued titles, just registration. You'll have to wade through the process for your state. You should be able to find all the relevant DMV information online, read all of it. It will be boring and tedious, but you can't count on the workers at the DMV to know all of the codes related to your situation. I mean, you should be able to, but that certainly hasn't been my experience. You have to become an expert in the applicable regulations and then tell them how it needs to be done, and present all the proper paperwork.

Much easier to buy a car with a title, which is generally why cars without titles are so much cheaper. Sometimes that works in your advantage and you get a good car cheap, sometimes you earn your savings back in time and frustration spent at the DMV getting the new title. I have been on both ends of that spectrum, couple were pretty easy, but one in particular I probably lost money between paperwork, fees, and in time spent by the time I finally had the title in hand.
 
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Well tonight I met with a guy that I believe may have been a huge help . He told about a lady that does title searches for all the states . I got her number and I may have to spend a couple bucks , but at-least I'm headed once again in the right direction .
 
I cruise Craigslist checking out "Classic cars" if you want to call them that. Some of the Best prices for lack of a better word come without a title. I have heard of people going out of state for titles when they buy a car with a missing title, but I feel it isn't worth the hassle. However, say it is a 1958 Biscayne, a rolling body that you want to maybe put back together, its been sitting for years, and grandpa lost the title, I can see going for a retitle to save the car. Chances are that it did "fall off the books" being that old. What I like about old cars is that they are anti- establishment, and counter culture. All the "Normal" people are driving new cars that they cant afford, Most idiots these days don't appreciate old cars, I am all for gracing the highways with the presence of an old car, just cause it rubs some people the wrong way. :)
 
67Dart273 said:
Here, you might review THIS:

WOW Stolen Cuda found

.........and this........

stolen Cuda found,cops refuse to get it back - Yellow Bullet Forums

This is why we have titles, and why they are important

Having said that, a story from "the old days"

Around 1967 I bought a 57 Chev with a blown up engine from two travelling guys from S Dakota. They did not have the title, but they did eventually send it. In the meantime, I drove it "somewhat illegally" on the current S Dakota plate, of which there was only one

This was before I went in the Navy, and worked as a "police dispatcher" for the local city PD, "graveyard." One late nasty fall evening, for NO reason, a friend of mine drove from Sandpoint to Priest River and ended up going for a cup of coffee.

You drove down a very short very steep hill....off the highway......to a stop sign in the "center of town." There we were, stopped at that stop sign, looking across the street, trying to see if the cafe was open, or what. We must have sat there stopped for 15-20 seconds or more. It was dark, probably 7PM in late fall

We parked the car, and were walking towards the cafe. Along comes a constable/ city cop, who says like this here:

"Uh, I see you boys are from out of town. You just jump right back into that Chevy and keep going, and I won't have to arrest you for running that stop sign"

Well, something just "clicked" in my brain. Or went "bang," maybe. I looked at that cop, and I said, "I was born and raised in Sandpoint, and in fact I'm the midnight to 8 radio operator. We are going to have some coffee, and then we are going back to Sandpoint, where I work later tonight."

With that I turned and walked away, leaving the cop standing there wondering ?????

Our then Chief. This must have been after I joined the Navy, we had no TTY when I left

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The day operator. I can't remember her name, she was very well thought of

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Not a bad looking woman.
 
I got a name !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FABO I need your help !!!!!!!!!!

I just got the name of the last owners that had that car titled in their name . It was Larry Blythe or Kathryn Blythe . Is there any possibility that anyone knows these folks ?
 
I misread the thread title.
Anyway. You could do a search on this board for many thread on this subject.
With just as many opinions.
Every state is different on this.
Some insist on them.
Some won't issue them on older cars if none are on record.
And every state is a sovereign entity.
If you have the car in that state, that's your answer.
Titles are to show ownership which becomes important when there could be a lien on the car.
Unless you have some reason to suspect that this car has not changed hands legitimately, I wouldn't worry about it.
It was never reported as missing or stolen I would guess.
A cop can do a VIN run on it and let you know.
Won't cost you a thing.
I've bought cars that did not exist in the computer system when the cop ran it.
And they had old tags on them.
I've got no doubt that I could prove in a court of law they are my cars.
And face it, for the value of this car it's a small claims matter anyway.
A lawyer wouldn't even touch it without someone paying them.
 
adriver said:
I misread the thread title.
Anyway. You could do a search on this board for many thread on this subject.
With just as many opinions.
Every state is different on this.
Some insist on them.
Some won't issue them on older cars if none are on record.
And every state is a sovereign entity.
If you have the car in that state, that's your answer.
Titles are to show ownership which becomes important when there could be a lien on the car.
Unless you have some reason to suspect that this car has not changed hands legitimately, I wouldn't worry about it.
It was never reported as missing or stolen I would guess.
A cop can do a VIN run on it and let you know.
Won't cost you a thing.
I've bought cars that did not exist in the computer system when the cop ran it.
And they had old tags on them.
I've got no doubt that I could prove in a court of law they are my cars.
And face it, for the value of this car it's a small claims matter anyway.
A lawyer wouldn't even touch it without someone paying them.
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Don't need to now . I know who the last titled owners are . Now all I need is to find them .
 
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