B Taylor
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What is the best all in one front disc brake kit that will fit my 65 Dart. I don't want to try and source multiple parts new and old to get disc brakes.
What is the best all in one front disc brake kit that will fit my 65 Dart. I don't want to try and source multiple parts new and old to get disc brakes.
bruce how do you like this kit? what wheels do you have and can you add a parts list? 105 for the brackets and then i saw previa rotors and 1990 celebrity calipers. scarebird doesn't list any other parts needed, but im sure hoses? this direction appears to allow a conversion for well under 200....not including bigger wheels.I used Scarebird.
I bought the complete kit from Scarebird. Check their website. It includes loaded calipers that have a nub ground down to fit. Hoses and clips, rotors drilled for the 5x4 pattern. That is what held me back in the past because they would supply you with a paper template to drill the holes. The complete kit is under $500. You use your hubs minus the drums. Strip off all the parts down to bare spindles, install the brackets, calipers hoses, etc. No breaking down the front end. I am very happy with the system. Very easy to install. I am running 14 x 5.5 steelies. I don't think the factory rallye wheels fit. I had a set of repop 14x6 rallyes on it that worked fine. It's a mix of parts, but all easy to get pads, etc at Napa,and others. Scarebird also sells just the rotors predrilled separately if needed. It doesn't widen the front track either. The thickness of the rotor hat is a little thicker than the brake drum it replaces. Scarebird suggests you install longer studs which I did, but I don't think it was necessary. I don't have a parts list in front of me, but they give you the list for reference. Toyota rotors, Chevy celebrity calipers and pads, Caddy brake lines If you Goggle Scarebird, someone posted their install step by step with pictures. Brucebruce how do you like this kit? what wheels do you have and can you add a parts list? 105 for the brackets and then i saw previa rotors and 1990 celebrity calipers. scarebird doesn't list any other parts needed, but im sure hoses? this direction appears to allow a conversion for well under 200....not including bigger wheels.
With Scarebird, you will need to drill new holes in the rotors for your 5 x 4" bolt pattern, or buy the rotors from them already drilled. Most all the choices can be bought as complete kits, it is just a question of price: ~$800 for Wilwood, ~$600 for the 1973+ front disk setup, ~$200 for Scarebird. Replacement parts will be easier and cheaper w/ Scarebird.
You can get the 73+ Mopar disk kit from Dr diff with the small ball joint adaptors to keep the stock UCA's for $480. Includes everything- spindles, caliper brackets, calipers, rotors, bearings, hoses, dust shields and hardware. But it does convert you to BBP. The replacement parts are all stock 73+ A-body though, so, I don't see how that's difficult. Maybe more expensive than the metric stuff the scarebird kit uses though.
The scarebird kit is $105 for just the adaptors, the entire kit is $480 and I don't see bearings and a few other things you'll need in there. Not gonna get that conversion done for $200.
You can get the 73+ Mopar disk kit from Dr diff with the small ball joint adaptors to keep the stock UCA's for $480. Includes everything- spindles, caliper brackets, calipers, rotors, bearings, hoses, dust shields and hardware. But it does convert you to BBP. The replacement parts are all stock 73+ A-body though, so, I don't see how that's difficult. Maybe more expensive than the metric stuff the scarebird kit uses though.
The scarebird kit is $105 for just the adaptors, the entire kit is $480 and I don't see bearings and a few other things you'll need in there. Not gonna get that conversion done for $200.
In reference to the bearings, you use your existing hubs and wheel bearings. I like the kit because I had done a complete suspension rebuild earlier in the season, so none of that work was lost. All of these brake conversions are like shocks or tires. Many choices to pick from. Scarebird just happened to be the one that worked for me from both price and ease of install. Bruce
it is hard to beat these mopar pieces.They just work great and were designed for A bodies!
Hmmm. I'm already 4.5" BP all around on my 63 from the PO. Can I not go scarebird now?
In reference to Scarebird, someone above said, "I don't think the factory rallye wheels fit."
Jake and I did Scarbird on his 65 B'cuda. He is running SBP rallye wheels - Mopar wheels, not aftermarket/repro - up front. They fit fine. And yes, the kit is easy to install. Drilling the rotors ourself was easy as well. I would not pay the mark up to get the rotors pre-drilled.
so....... maybe I measured them wrong? I ordered off rockauto for my year dart, 63, and got the 10" front drums and the bolt pattern fit them. I just googled how to measure the bp and got 4.5. is there a mopar preferred method?Depends. There were never any front drums for A-bodies that were BBP. So, you have to figure out what spindles you have on your car...