I just put them on my Cuda. There was a couple of times that I had to stop and rethink what I was doing but they fit with no dinging or adjusting. I also got them with no scratches to either the headers or the car. As far as the height goes I would say it's a little better but nothing exceptional. I took off my cheap Flowtechs and put the Dougs on in their place. The flange height was identical. While it's true that Dougs go above the steering linkage they drop down to the same height as the cheaper headers.