Well, we live in completely different climates. I have had precious carbureted vehicles with a working choke. All the Holleys I've had with no choke, busted right off and idled in all but the coldest conditions and even then only took maybe 30 seconds to a minute to idle. This one is way too cold natured. I do appreciate your input, but I am not trying to tune out leanness due to a missing choke. It is lean all the way around.