yes you are so right and don't forget even the windshield adds support to the car. I have less than a year till I retire and with all the new bullshit, been a body man for over 40 years. the ins. co. are trying to beat or labor rate down all the time and just getting tired of them calling the shop and saying we will not pay that amount in labor so I tell them well your just gonna have to tell the owner of the car that you won't pay for quality work and your gonna have to take your car to a butcher shop. they can kiss my ***. sorry I'm just fed up with the bullshit, and will pass up work before they get there way.