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dan schalk

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Thanks to all the help on here, my 65 barracuda engine is purring like a kitten. I ordered all new brake parts and started with the front passenger side. all is good but i have a very "newbie" question. I'm replacing the drums. The front drums have the lugs and some other stuff (sorry, don't know the official name) built into them and they don't seem to want to separate to go into the new drum. Do I just hammer away or am i missing something??
 
I will offer the following with a grain of salt, and gladly defer to any guru who disagrees. I had to deal with this question when I was pulling my drums to install front discs. After researching how to do this, here's what I recall. I believe the front studs are swaged into the drums. If you hammer them out, you will ruin either the stud, the drum, the hub, or some combination of the three. The shoulder area where the stud meets the drum has to be relieved somehow (aka grinding) before you can get them out.
 
dan schalk said:
Thanks to all the help on here, my 65 barracuda engine is purring like a kitten. I ordered all new brake parts and started with the front passenger side. all is good but i have a very "newbie" question. I'm replacing the drums. The front drums have the lugs and some other stuff (sorry, don't know the official name) built into them and they don't seem to want to separate to go into the new drum. Do I just hammer away or am i missing something??
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halfafish said:
I will offer the following with a grain of salt, and gladly defer to any guru who disagrees. I had to deal with this question when I was pulling my drums to install front discs. After researching how to do this, here's what I recall. I believe the front studs are swaged into the drums. If you hammer them out, you will ruin either the stud, the drum, the hub, or some combination of the three. The shoulder area where the stud meets the drum has to be relieved somehow (aka grinding) before you can get them out.
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There is a tool for cutting the stud swages so they can be removed.
 
halfafish said:
I will offer the following with a grain of salt, and gladly defer to any guru who disagrees. I had to deal with this question when I was pulling my drums to install front discs. After researching how to do this, here's what I recall. I believe the front studs are swaged into the drums. If you hammer them out, you will ruin either the stud, the drum, the hub, or some combination of the three. The shoulder area where the stud meets the drum has to be relieved somehow (aka grinding) before you can get them out.
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Oh boy. More parts! I think I’ll keep the old drums for now. Thanks
 
Mopar Tim said:
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ST-437 : ST-500 : ST-562 : Brake Drum Swedge Cutting Tool
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I`d put a lugnut on them and hold a piece of alum. something over them and knock them out w/ a hammer. Might have to use p b blaster or something first, if rusty. U can install them after cleaning them up, by using spacers to take up slack and pull them straight using the lugnuts. keep screwing w/ them till u get them seated and straight. While leaving pressure on them w/ the spacers and lugnuts tite, use a mig welder to put 2 small tacks 180 apart on the heads inside the drum. Just be sure to have them perfectly straight first--no biggy !
 
dan schalk said:
So would you cut them from the back?
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Yep, from the threaded side where the flared/swaged shoulder is on the outside of the drum.
It's that flared part that destroys the hub if you try to press the studs out because it opens the hole so far that new studs won't fit any longer.
Once that shoulder is off and you press/knock the studs out new ones should go back in nicely without having to weld anything.

Pulling them in with the nuts and some washers like famous bob mentioned works great.
Once the wheel and lug nuts go back on nothing is going to move anyway and this will allow the removal of just the drum later on when needed, because the studs won't be swaged onto the drum any longer.
Also there is no safety issue about doing them this way, because the center of the hub centers the wheel anyway and as long as your studs don't spin when tightening you are good.

I realize people vary in how they do things sometimes, but this is the way I have always done them and never a problem afterwards.
 
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