I'm not a big fan of big cities either. You know we traveled the United States this summer and still there's not a bigger city like Portland that I have found anywhere. We live in a heavily wooded neighborhood that within three minutes I could have you in a pasture petting a horse from my front door. Portland had some serious Urban boundaries put up a long time ago by its local government. It's not like La where you can drive for 4 hours and never leave the city. With all that said I can still hardly wait to move out to the country if that ever can manifest itself. Oh yeah and we're not going to drive the hour and a half west to the beach on this nice day we're going to drive the hour-and-a-half east and go ride the snowmobiles today...