Has anybody used these headers?

wes beem said
Im using them because i completely and totally despise long tube headers on these A bodies, they drag on the ground if i dont crank my torsion bars all the way up and any bump i hit they drag, also they make it almost impossible to get to the starter, and make spark plug removal a nightmare as well. Imo what minor amount of horsepower you would gain with headers over shorty's just isnt worth it to me and im working on a budget. The 360 is bone stock except for the 4bbl carb and dual plane edelbrock intake, and were putting in a mild custom grind cam from lunati.

See, all 4 of you points are wrong, imho. First off the newer better design headers have all the tubes above the steering gear, so you don't have to crank the bars way up, actually, you can lower then, give it that stance you want. 2nd,. The modern header, lotsa access to the starter, especially the new mini starter. But seriously, how often do you removed a starter, mines been in a decade. 3rd. The better modern header gives way lotsa room to get #5 & #7 plugs out, AND there's so much room the plug wires don't need any protection from burning. 4th. The scavenging and other effect of long tube header produce more than a few h/p. They have long been one of the most cost effective means of gaining on n/a engine. Most h/p per $$. Think 8 - 10 % h/ p closed, 15% ish open.. Instead guys paying hundreds to install X / H pipes that give a vague 5 h/p . The shorty header, you ever seen the undersink plumbing that some muffler shop is going to charge to install. Jeg's and others make inexpensive kits, hook straight up to header, or your original exhaust.. A s to the camshaft, do you think a cam will shove you back in the seat like a header, and put a grin on your face, sorry, depending on the gear ratio, not gonna happen. The name of the modern headers that do this, are budget Doug's (on sale AutoZone $350ish), or pricey TTI. jmobservation&experience. Hope it helps.
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