United Car Tool Torque boxes - can they go in AFTER subframe connectors?
Oh brother.
I have more than one A-body, as my signature clearly shows. Which means it's completely possible for me to have installed more than one kind of frame connector right? On my Duster I made my own subframe connectors from 1.5"x3" tubing and used US Cartool torque boxes. I installed my subframe connectors first, then the torque boxes. This is that car, I've posted all of these plenty of times before
BUT, on my '71 EL5 Dart GT, I wanted a more stock look for the subframe connectors because that car is a matching numbers, 1 of ~1280 made GT. So, I used the US Cartool connectors. I also used their torque boxes, and installed them after I installed the USCT subframe connectors. So yes, I have used them, I have installed them, and I based my opinions on my own install. Which I clearly mentioned in my previous posts. I didn't have to hammer anything to install them, it worked just fine beyond the general difficulties I mentioned about welding upside down with the car up on stands and the large amount of welding needed.
And, the both of pictures I attached in my previous posts are FROM THE US CARTOOL WEBSITE. That's their install. I linked it above, here it is again. Follow the link, see the pictures on the USCT website. 67-75 Mopar A Body Frame Connectors So, your argument here is that US Cartool installed their own connectors wrong? And then painted them yellow to highlight their product installed incorrectly?
I figured you would probably just double down anyway, so I emailed US Cartool after my last post and asked them. Here's the response-
And if you don't believe me, here's a screenshot of the email too. It's kinda small because of the way that FABO shrunk the picture, but if you squint it says the same thing as above. My full name and email are edited, and you may notice I asked "Chris" because that's the name on the email for the website. But John answered me back. So, there you have it. According to US Cartool, it doesn't make a difference.
Oh brother.
I have more than one A-body, as my signature clearly shows. Which means it's completely possible for me to have installed more than one kind of frame connector right? On my Duster I made my own subframe connectors from 1.5"x3" tubing and used US Cartool torque boxes. I installed my subframe connectors first, then the torque boxes. This is that car, I've posted all of these plenty of times before
BUT, on my '71 EL5 Dart GT, I wanted a more stock look for the subframe connectors because that car is a matching numbers, 1 of ~1280 made GT. So, I used the US Cartool connectors. I also used their torque boxes, and installed them after I installed the USCT subframe connectors. So yes, I have used them, I have installed them, and I based my opinions on my own install. Which I clearly mentioned in my previous posts. I didn't have to hammer anything to install them, it worked just fine beyond the general difficulties I mentioned about welding upside down with the car up on stands and the large amount of welding needed.
And, the both of pictures I attached in my previous posts are FROM THE US CARTOOL WEBSITE. That's their install. I linked it above, here it is again. Follow the link, see the pictures on the USCT website. 67-75 Mopar A Body Frame Connectors So, your argument here is that US Cartool installed their own connectors wrong? And then painted them yellow to highlight their product installed incorrectly?
I figured you would probably just double down anyway, so I emailed US Cartool after my last post and asked them. Here's the response-
Hi Bryan,
It does not matter, we often install the frame connectors first and the torques boxes over , but it really is not an issue either way.
Let me know if you need any help.
Best Regards,
John Pasemann
> On Jun 7, 2018, at 2:13 PM, Bryan wrote:
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> Hi Chris,
>
> I have a set of your subframe connectors and torque boxes for my ‘71 Dodge Dart. I noticed in the pictures on the website that on the ‘67 Dart pictures the torque boxes were installed before the subframe connectors, while on the ‘72 Dart (the one with everything highlighted yellow) they were installed after the subframe connectors. Does it matter which order they’re installed in?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Bryan
It does not matter, we often install the frame connectors first and the torques boxes over , but it really is not an issue either way.
Let me know if you need any help.
Best Regards,
John Pasemann
> On Jun 7, 2018, at 2:13 PM, Bryan wrote:
>
> Hi Chris,
>
> I have a set of your subframe connectors and torque boxes for my ‘71 Dodge Dart. I noticed in the pictures on the website that on the ‘67 Dart pictures the torque boxes were installed before the subframe connectors, while on the ‘72 Dart (the one with everything highlighted yellow) they were installed after the subframe connectors. Does it matter which order they’re installed in?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Bryan
And if you don't believe me, here's a screenshot of the email too. It's kinda small because of the way that FABO shrunk the picture, but if you squint it says the same thing as above. My full name and email are edited, and you may notice I asked "Chris" because that's the name on the email for the website. But John answered me back. So, there you have it. According to US Cartool, it doesn't make a difference.
