Tons of black dust? Raybestos

So, EBC Reds stop your car in shorter distances, if you don't mind dust. So, EBC reds make a lot of dust - that's what you're saying here right?



Wait, now I'm confused. First you say, if I don't mind dust I should use EBC Reds. Then you say, if you're driving an old car and want to keep it clean, use a good ceramic pad. EBC Reds are ceramic pads!

So, which is it? Ceramic pads make a lot of dust? Or ceramic pads are good for keeping your car clean? Pretty sure they can't be both.

As for the rest of it-

I never claimed ceramic pads were unsafe. Read what I said, I never said that. I'm not sure why you insist on putting words in my mouth, because that's a couple times now you've claimed I've said things I simply didn't say.

I also never claimed semi-metallics were best. I actually gave a whole bunch of reasons NOT to run them. They're noisy, they're dirty, and they tear up rotors. EBC even agrees, they say their pads make less dust and prolong rotor life. That's what EBC says, not me, it is part of their marketing. I have run ceramic pads, I didn't like them. That's my own personal opinion based on how I drive my car, I'm not claiming they're better or worse. Just that I personally prefer semi-metallics, and I don't choose my pads based on dust or rotor life (because otherwise I probably wouldn't run semi-metallics).

You say EBC pads are the best, that's great. You claim they stop your car in a shorter distance, so, what is that distance? In feet please. With how much shorter it is than some of those other pads you listed. Thanks, that will be super helpful.



Um, sorry, but if you do this daily on a public road, shame on you. You're a complete moron if you actually do that, so hopefully that's just more internet bravado from you.

LOL, I'm a moron?
Coming from the guy who's never been to a race track with his car, yet lectures people on FABO about heel-toe braking and miraculous corner handling of his cobble Duster! You lecture everyone about lane splitting on your motorcycle because your a safe rider too. Good one!

You claim you've never had your car on a track and drive like an old lady everywhere? Where are you doing all this fancy driving at? Oh, it's in your mind, I see.

Fact is 72bluNblu you have never run EBC brake pads, but you will just claim you did to win an argument. You're like a 16 year old girl on here! And you did claim ceramic brakes were not as safe as your semi metallics. You claim you stop quicker with off the shelf semi-metallic pads like a newb. Um, no. You don't stop as well as an aggresive ceramic pad will stop your car. And I like your little Bridgestone write up you copied and re-posted, that they aimed at the generic consumer.

I think it's a joke when you argue with people on here and then claim you "Designed" your suspension. Um, no... you didn't. You just bought a bunch of parts from manufactures like Dr. Diff, SPC, QA1, Caltrac, Hotchkis, Hellwig etc.. and bolted them on. Then argue with guys that actually race like Wrack that you're right. If you actually raced your car you'd know why he wanted to perform certain mods.

The thing you don't get is that there are different grades of ceramic pads. Some are aggressive, some are for just every day driving. There is a big difference in features between manufacturer's and materials. One manufacture might have a low dust ceramic and it's fine for driving on a commuter car and it won't stop a car quick. Another manufacturers low dust might stop a car very quickly, and it does produce less dust than say their other ceramic pads. The dust they may produce is just a byproduct of what they are used for. Something you claim you don't mind at all! There is no grading system established for brake dust with brake manufacturer's. You seem too be to dense to understand that. But you will lecture people that you are right because your ego makes you think you know everything.

And if I want to hammer it on a 6 mile stretch of road it's really none oh your liberal business. You really just modified your Duster for no particular purpose other than driving like an old lady around town. Take it to the track. If you don't, your just on here bragging about what parts you've accumulated and don't really know if your car was improved by them or not.

Oh, I forgot, you also like to fall back on the claim that you cobbled your Duster together with they theory that your are improving it's every function. So you can drive it like my grandma stole it?

To me, there is nothing wrong with the OP's Raybestos pads. They produced some dust. It doesn't sound like he is driving it aggressively, he says "Just a bit". If he's just cruising around and wants to keep his wheels clean maybe he should just get some ceramic Reybestos or Wagner Thermoquiet brake pads. Oh, but you told him that's unsafe, and if he didn't like the dust he should park his car. And that's the point where you claim your such and expert "grandma driver" that cars only need semi-metallics for stopping ability. Your semi-matallics aren't as good as EBC RedStuff Ceramics.