Where do each of these wires go?

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Theres 3 red wires so it has me confused I already rewired all the turn signal wires from the other plug. But these two plugs are confusing obviously there to the ignition switch but with all the google search I don’t have a clear indication where each color wire goes where please need your help.

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DON'T CUT THE RED WIRE!! :eek: you need the factory wiring diagram before you go any further.
 
Yes this a full harness. I have all wires ran. Just need to finish up ignition switch, and stock gauge cluster wiring.
 
If it's a Ron Francis express kit. ?? The instructions are very clear that Ron includes. Read each and EVERY detail point sheets for EACH circuit group( bags are corresponding for each) .
Apply that to the color full vehicle schematic and having the yellow sheet as reference where needed .
The ignition switch circuit bag includes an 8 terminal generic block and individual quality male and female brass/copper terminals that IF CRIMPED CORRECTLY with a machine crimp tool ( has a spring loaded ratcheting pressure "limiter" and changeable " jaws" for each application ).. OR ... Experienced use of a micro/metri Pak style crimp tool . AS STATED IF DONE CORRECTLY !!!! Using the supplied generic connector block will provide superior current capacity compared to the long tube/bullet style OE "flat" connector that you will eliminate .
The instructions are super clear as to color /function from OE to RF KIT. i can copy my notes and my RF INSTALL info./schematic/detail sheets for express24 late A body kit if u don't have them . Or Ron will resupply I'd imagine ... My notes concern variuos things that simplify and better explain certain steps and methods in my humble opinion , but do not deviate from rons intentions as to install.
KEEP IN MIND... These wiring kits while far superior to the crap wiring ideas that came from Mopar in the 70s are not intended to be "morphed " or "hybrid-ed" into your factory harness ANYWHERE except the neccesary connectorS at components ( think park/TS lamps , nss, horn,tail lamps, dome lamp etc etc) .
If u are somehow trying to remain OE CORRECT ... This kit ain't it
If you want to have a reliable solid and superior complete electrical system in your vehicle , THIS IS THE ONLY KIT ,imho. They are bulletproof as much as the quality of install. EXCELLENT KITS.
So don't go buying a factory manual and all this to try and hack in or modify rons install plan... IT WORKS PERFECTLY JUST READ,READ,FOLLOW. ALSO EACH KIT INCLUDES A SERIAL NUMBER AND TECH ASSISTANCE .., again read everything.
I've installed AAW , MP, interstate and some other wiring kits in mopars..... They are adequate to ok but do not eliminate certain Mopar weak links such as the idiotic and under engineered bulkhead connector and worthless dangerous ammeter connection and others. RF KITS ELIMINATE THESE SHORTCOMINGS AND THINK LONG TERM RELIABILITY / simplified function. I just finished two full kits including my own 72 scamp . They are simple if you have electrical know how and proper tools. And they are much cleaner when using proper braided sheathing and good planning .
Pm me if you have any questions .. I can totally walk u thru each and any problem ur having .
 
Once again I just want to hammer this point ... You do not even need a factory diagram or manual FOR RF KIT INSTALL!!!! You need them for a myriad of other reasons but they will not simplify or accomplish anything except to confuse the " average " DIY, as he installs these kits.
Trust me , part of my daily routine as a lead master technician includes electrical expertise and thorough understanding of ANY electrical circuit in a vehicle . I use factory schematics and info for reference of Colors , terminal placement, routing , function ,etc of modern complex circuits every day......
That said , the RF KIT requires no such information , it would serve only to complicate things for 99 percent of DIY's.( yes even the ones who claim to " know electrical" ) if I had a nickel.....
 
He does supply directions for the head lights, tail lights and blinkers. On the one connector. But on this one the only directions he gives is for a gm style aftermarket column and ignition switch. He even stated on his directions that that’s the only thing he supply’s for the retro kit. So if you have some notes on that one that would help a lot.
 
kursplat said:
DON'T CUT THE RED WIRE!! :eek: you need the factory wiring diagram before you go any further.
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THIS. I doubt Francis covers the IGN2 circuit from the ignition switch. The 73 book MAY be the same. You can download it from MyMopar. DO NOT go by the entire diagram, there are differences 73--75. I'm referring to the ignition switch diagram
 
Caliscamp72 said:
Once again I just want to hammer this point ... You do not even need a factory diagram or manual FOR RF KIT INSTALL!!!! You need them for a myriad of other reasons but they will not simplify or accomplish anything except to confuse the " average " DIY, as he installs these kits.
Trust me , part of my daily routine as a lead master technician includes electrical expertise and thorough understanding of ANY electrical circuit in a vehicle . I use factory schematics and info for reference of Colors , terminal placement, routing , function ,etc of modern complex circuits every day......
That said , the RF KIT requires no such information , it would serve only to complicate things for 99 percent of DIY's.( yes even the ones who claim to " know electrical" ) if I had a nickel.....
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Does the instruction in this kit include the pinout of the factory ignition switch/column connector?
That being said I don't think the factory wiring diagram would identify the function of the wire on the switch but just them going to the switch.
If it did I doubt the OP would be asking this question.
That being said, I'd have it mapped out with a meter in minutes. But I wouldn't be wasting time with one of the "universal" kits.

Alan
 
I installed the express kit and never referred to the factory diagram. I recall that on the column, I tested each of the 5-7 wires in all key positions...ign 1, 2, start, run, etc. To make it easier I made a small chart with wire colors on one side and key position on the other axis. If a wire had power in a particular position, I put a (+) in that box...if there was no power, I put a (-). I'd be careful about trying to follow the factory diagram as that may lead to confusion or assumptions that may not work out. I called RF once while I was installing and they were very helpful if you get to that point.
Did you get the car started? If I recall correctly, after the first bag, you should be able to start the engine. I followed the instructions bag by bag of wire in order.
 
The motor isn’t even all the way together yet. No transmission in car and no rearend
 
ok. Well, what's done is done but it would have been better if you could have waited until you had everything together so you could test at each stage and also to know the lengths of wires and routing them as you go holding them together in bundles with either small loops of tape etc. Granted, that mostly applies to only the engine since that's what's missing. I'm sure you had your reasons for going ahead with it. My best advice is to not wrap everything up in electrical tape until you are certain everything works and you have it routed like you want it. Even then I would use the non adhesive tape in case you need to change something or something doesn't work etc..
 
Yellow Is 12 volts supply to switch
Red is 12 volts START voltage ( solenoid / start relay)
Blue and brown are ign 1 and2 on a 71 and 72 ( run voltage and cranking voltage with ballast resistor and points ) however u should have factory electronic ignition so since there are apparently only four wires ... One is run voltage and one is accessory voltage .
A DVOM will sort that out quickly or I can verify shortly at my break .
 
The two in the white plastic connector could be the ignition buzzer and the seat belt light. The other grey connection could be going to the seatbelt plugs that run from the front seatbelts under the carpet.
 
73hcode said:
The two in the white plastic connector could be the ignition buzzer and the seat belt light. The other grey connection could be going to the seatbelt plugs that run from the front seatbelts under the carpet.
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Absolutely there are buzzers and lamps that terminate in the OE connector , that's up to the OP as to including any in his build . But yeah , totally valid statement .
 
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