My Blueprint crate engine story - May 2018

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Not trying to co-op the thread. Sorry about that. Just trying to figure this out. Oddly enough, this is for my boys Duster build, so I'm trying to keep the HP under control, thus the interest in the 360. I'll call Johnny at BP.
 
Not trying to co-op the thread. Sorry about that. Just trying to figure this out. Oddly enough, this is for my boys Duster build, so I'm trying to keep the HP under control, thus the interest in the 360. I'll call Johnny at BP.
Hey buddy, glad to help. I think our warranty and our dyno testing is worth its value. The iron headed 408 is a nice option for a street car. Let me know!
 
Better than playing video games like his buddies....
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Thanks for the advice guys, much appreciated. Got hold of Johnny Mac at blueprint and ordered a 408 stroker with a Holley Sniper EFI. I’ll let you know my experience when I get the motor, but the help we’ve received was phenomenal. Talked to other vendors that sounded like they were doing me a favor to put together a mopar engine, not blueprint, they’re right on top of it.
 
it's not the HP it the right foot and the testastrone
Johnny do consider Magnum lifters and hollow pushrods especially on stock rockers but for rollers also
 
Nice review, and I am all for a crate engine if one has the budget. Its alot quicker to get an engine in and running than to take one out, tear down , inspect, replace etc. Looks like a good deal and horsepower numbers are respectable.
 
I’ll keep everyone posted, but I did some basic math and can’t see how not to do a crate motor when time is critical. I want to make sure my boy gets a chance to do some work himself and Blueprint has us dialed in. I have a 360 block in the shop that we will build later, but getting the Duster on the road is a big deal when you’re 17. I want him to walk away saying “ I built that..”. And his friends can all feel pathetic about the BMW that their parents bought them...
 
I just checked out the blueprint engines site.

I'm sorry maybe it's just me but... they seem damn expensive for the hp you get. Every one is almost a grand or more than what it would cost me to do it myself and in the end I'll have more power, but not everyone is me.

Imo Those are for "parts changer" "weekend warrior" and retirees rekindling their "glory days". I recommend to those types as soon as you get that crate to your house... pull the heads and send them out for porting. And then after you have the numbers ...talk to a cam grinder. Now if you just built it yourself you would have done all those things to start with you wouldn't be tearing it back apart and it wouldn't cost you an extra 2 grand... because the same guy doing the valve job would be porting them hence "you would get a better deal".
oh well to each his own.
 
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Every one is almost a grand or more than what it would cost me to do it myself and in the end I'll have more power.

But then not everybody around here is of the name MOPAROFFICIAL and knows his chit or has a reliable machine shop nearby...
Maybe beating a dead horse here but those who have the knowledge to build an engine and have done it many times will run cheaper...
and those who want to have a learning experience will still run cheaper but need 3 to 5 times as long... so I understand that there is a market for crate engines. :)
 
I get my friend to do my engines and also have great access to a machine shop ( think cash prices)... but in the end It’s not a big savings over these crates and they have no warranty.
One principle I stick to is if something goes wrong with the build I eat the cost... it’s not worth losing friends and connections over
 
Time and money if your in a hurry it costs you money if not you save some but in the end what’s your time worth?
 
Hmmmm...Name calling for folks who don't think like you. How leftist of you. Do you also run a restaurant where Crate buyers aren't welcome?

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Is there not an "oil changer" title?
There are levels of ability... as there are titles.
I've never heard a shop called 'econo lube and engine overhaul' though I'm sure they could cause one.
 
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Time and money if your in a hurry it costs you money if not you save some but in the end what’s your time worth?

Patience is a virtue.
Like selling something when you have to vs. When you dont.

With every rush is a sacrifice, give and take.

There's really no debate.
If you have zero time and got the money...these do it.
If you have time and money, you get more.
 
I have to call BS on the "I can do it cheaper for less than that" I hit $4300 in parts alone W/O ANY block, or machine work AND STOPPED w/o adding more. not to mention a 30 month warranty, and dyno testing. This is in comparison to their aluminum headed long block they sell. you literally can't buy these parts new, And get a block machined, for what they sell you a warrantied, dyno tested engine. that's with zero assembly, or fee's for labor or dyno worked in.

Everyone can argue this point either way, but when you lay it out on paper, unless you own a machine shop, I can't possibly see how anyone can argue there's no value in this.

if you want to go more compression, a bigger cam, ported heads, great...sure you can make more HP, and enjoy your zero warranty, less streetable, self assembled engine. If a rod bolt breaks on your 2nd drive...since some people enjoy building engines so much, or claim its so easy....that's great! you get to do it a 2nd time. lucky you!

now i'm not saying anyone that builds their own engine is a fool. Of course if you have confidence in your skills, then that's awesome. As others have pointed out however, time is money, and its worth the end use to determine if their enjoyment and time of assembling their own engine, to their spec, is worth it in the end. If not, then for all the labor it takes to get on blueprintengines.com and order an engine...you can get one on order. to each their own! But the claim of "I can save big doing it myself" isn't valid if you're comparing apples to apples, with new parts.

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As others have pointed out however, time is money, and its worth the end use to determine if their enjoyment and time of assembling their own engine, to their spec, is worth it in the end. If not, then for all the labor it takes to get on blueprintengines.com and order an engine...you can get one on order.

You're exactly right, Caco2120. This is nothing more than a choice to be made, based on each individual's personal circumstance/preference. Besides your point that "time is money", I will add that "Time is limited". I had Cancer 10 years ago. I made the choice NOT to piss away another year or 2 or 3 building an engine, and instead spend the time driving my car because I know that there is no guarantee in life that I will even be alive in 3 years.

Sure, if I put adequate resources to it, I could learn to fly a 747 too. But for what? To live up to someone else's expectations, or hope it makes my dick look bigger?

I'm driving my car with the 408 in it every chance I get. That makes me feel alive. That's all I care about.
 
Hey lets get offended and look stupid, wait the guy above me already did that. Heh heh.
Go get a bandaid and a hug from mom.
To the parts list.. no ones chained to that list of garbage, that would be the makings of an asthmatic 8 holed turd.

Unsubscribing.
 
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Funny this thread turned into this, similar to a thread I started a little while ago. It comes down to this, it is really a personal choice and a personality difference. All I can say is that it is awesome that Blueprint makes it a hard choice by putting out a great product for us MoPar lovers. Even if I decide to build my own, I will support Blueprint to make sure they continue to allow people to pick up a quality crate motor for a decent price. Truly when you can buy a crate motor for just a little more than the cost of the summit parts we are in a great place as a consumer.
 
Pick your parts, pay your money

Simple as that.

If you have the time and experience to build it, go that way. If not, there are crate or builder options out there. A butt for every seat so to speak.
 
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