Anyone using Year One wiring harnesses?

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I am thinking about replacing all the wiring in my 72 dart. What I have is functional but hacked pretty bad and well worn. I am not very good at wiring/electrical so the closer to direct replacement the better. Anyone have experience with the Year One wiring products? How satisfied were you? Any issues or problems? All input would be appreciated.
 
M&H is the vendor for the Year One Mopar harnesses. They are very good quality pieces and expensive.
 
crackedback said:
M&H is the vendor for the Year One Mopar harnesses. They are very good quality pieces and expensive.
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Thanks. I don't mind paying for it if the quality is there. An electrical fire would no doubt be just as costly. BTW do you still produce the headlight relay kits? I'd be interested if you do.
Thanks again.
 
DartSwinger451 said:
Thanks. I don't mind paying for it if the quality is there. An electrical fire would no doubt be just as costly. BTW do you still produce the headlight relay kits? I'd be interested if you do.
Thanks again.
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Expensive, but you will surely be pleased for a stock or maybe semi stock replacement. If going all custom then maybe a Painless or other is smarter. Look for the sales! Subscribe to the E-mails cause they are on and off with the discounts.

I am very happy with my stock M&H harnesses through Year One for my 69 with no shipping costs, cause they are within 25 miles of me. Thought of Fire swayed me easily, been there done that in a 69 Super Bee and it sux!
 
Think of it this way when you do your wiring. If you're going to disconnect all the wires pull it out and put it on your table in front of you compare it to the new one and then plug the new one into all the wires and connections you had before? Now how about instead of that if you just took your whole entire wiring out put it on your bench repaired everything that needed repairing and or run one wire brand new from one end to the other (like I did with a $15 for the wire and a soldering iron and some new connections) where needed. And save yourself a bundle and actually know your wiring from that day on. which you end up learning with one of those kits anyways because again you will take out all of your wires and then have to learn and figure out where all these brand new wires Go I mean they will be labeled that you will still be running every wire underneath the dash. just don't forget to label your wires with blue tape and a pen as you take them apart from each other and label where you take them away from. You'll find that this old wiring a lot of times just wants to go right back where it's been all its life.
Have fun with your hubby, don't pay somebody else too...
 
Also for myself and most of my customers this is a great time to put that corrugated plastic tubing over top of everything so it looks all neat under the hood when you're doing the under the hood stuff.
 
j par said:
Also for myself and most of my customers this is a great time to put that corrugated plastic tubing over top of everything so it looks all neat under the hood when you're doing the under the hood stuff.
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Not for me. That stuff looks like crap to me and Factory harness assemblies for a factory look is the only way! They are taped with the correct type harness tape and look spot on!
 
1969383S said:
Not for me. That stuff looks like crap to me and Factory harness assemblies for a factory look is the only way! They are taped with the correct type harness tape and look spot on!
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That's cool for you.
For me it was more simply just take out the old spaghetti and put in new...
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Spaghetti is and understatement!

Race or Customs are in different league and not suited for factory replacement harnesses.

You want nice looking clean, stock, with minor mods, Buy the M&H and smile after you install.
 
DartSwinger451 said:
BTW do you still produce the headlight relay kits? I'd be interested if you do.
Thanks again.
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I certainly do still make the headlight relay harnesses. Would appreciate the opportunity to build one for you. Shoot me a PM when you are ready and let me know car, engine, type of alternator and preferred relay mounting location.

Thanks for the inquiry

Rob
 
1969383S said:
Spaghetti is and understatement!

Race or Customs are in different league and not suited for factory replacement harnesses.

You want nice looking clean, stock, with minor mods, Buy the M&H and smile after you install.
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Buy, buy, buy....
My "home made" wiring IS nice looking clean and I'm very much smiling...
 
The correct friction tape used by the factory is readily available, I can even get it at the local hardware store. It will have that fresh OEM factory look, I personally hate that plastic crap people sometimes put over their underhood wiring, BUT I am an oddball no doubt!!!
I have had great luck using Evans wiring the last 30 years. when I would but a done harness.

Like the left coast dude said, pull it all out of the dash, and then it is easy to really see what is what.
 
I would, and have used, Evans Wiring Harnesses on just about all my cars. I know Bill Evans, and he worked the electrical lines when our cars were new, and his products are of the highest quality, and use all correct wire colors and OE connectors. He will also add or subtract any sub harness you like, I had him add the electronic plugs for the newer style VR and ECU and dual field wires for Nellas electronic ignition upgrade. And he won’t rape you on the shipping like Year One.
 
cosgig said:
I would, and have used, Evans Wiring Harnesses on just about all my cars. I know Bill Evans, and he worked the electrical lines when our cars were new, and his products are of the highest quality, and use all correct wire colors and OE connectors. He will also add or subtract any sub harness you like, I had him add the electronic plugs for the newer style VR and ECU and dual field wires for Nellas electronic ignition upgrade. And he won’t rape you on the shipping like Year One.
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If I had to buy this sounds like a great option.
 
Yep it's a mopar and a hobby, you gotta choose your battles though.
There's lots of threads n stories on spaghetti nightmares.....but is every member interested or "qualified" with replacing individual wires....doubt it.
To each their own with what they like. My opinion...the corrugated **** looks like just that....****. Dollar store engine bay look.
MH in engine bay here.
j par said:
Buy, buy, buy....
My "home made" wiring IS nice looking clean and I'm very much smiling...
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cosgig said:
I would, and have used, Evans Wiring Harnesses on just about all my cars. I know Bill Evans, and he worked the electrical lines when our cars were new, and his products are of the highest quality, and use all correct wire colors and OE connectors. He will also add or subtract any sub harness you like, I had him add the electronic plugs for the newer style VR and ECU and dual field wires for Nellas electronic ignition upgrade. And he won’t rape you on the shipping like Year One.
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Thanks. I will talk to Evans before I take the plunge.
 
4spdragtop said:
Yep it's a mopar and a hobby, you gotta choose your battles though.
There's lots of threads n stories on spaghetti nightmares.....but is every member interested or "qualified" with replacing individual wires....doubt it.
To each their own with what they like. My opinion...the corrugated **** looks like just that....****. Dollar store engine bay look.
MH in engine bay here.
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I've done the engine, driveline, some of the interior. I even mini-rubbed it and moved the springs onboard myself. I guess I could tackle this as well and reap the benefits that JPAR rightly points out. Drawbacks for me are electrical competency and the time involved to do the job right(the first time). I appreciate all the insights.
 
DartSwinger451 said:
and the time involved to do the job right(the first time)
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Mean your time is worth something? :p
Seriously. You also need to add in the cost of the right tools, terminals and wire. Its not as much as a harness, but its hardly free.
DartSwinger451 said:
Anyone have experience with the Year One wiring products? How satisfied were you? Any issues or problems?
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Engine Harness for my '67 B. Early 90s IIRC
It's a close copy of an original for v-8 with tachometer in the instrument panel. That version is (was) the only option.
It's not 100% replica but very close. Minor details I've noticed later on when comparing with the original (slant 6) harness. Still fine for my purposes.
Over time found a couple of terminal crimps weren't quite as good as they probably should have been.

Engine compartment harness is usually the one that takes a beating.
I'd hold off on any other harness replacment unless its been hacked or damaged.
For the ones you're not replacing, invest in a terminal removal tool and one at a time remove the terminals that are oxidized or damaged. The ones of most concern are the instrument panel at the bulkhead. If they are clean and pretty, great. If not, clean and reinstall.
 
if you're going to have something modified by Evans, ask for the headlight wires in 16 gage instead of 18. Less important if you're doing headlight relays at the same time. But if you're delaying on the relays, the larger wires will be a little help in improving that very long cricuit.
 
Evans makes some good products, I used some of his connectors when I refurbished my factory wiring.
Mcmaster-carr sell friction tape reasonable, to achieve the factory look.
 
I'm sorry men but I do like the corrugated stuff better than the stock stuff. Instead of a bunch of different colored wires Loosely rap in decaying tape I think to my eyes at any rate it looks nicer to have everything nice and neat tucked away in one color. Unfortunately it probably wasn't cheap for the manufacturers to do it that way. Me personally all my wires are completely tucked away. All my headlight wires ignition wires charging and everything is all completely unseen or close to it.
For me and my car is totally 100% Hobby. I don't depend on it to get to work and I don't depend on it to make money for me. It is completely in my garage to make me happy and give me something to Tinker on. I have certainly fond out things that I couldn't do or want it done for me. I could have probably put the front windshield in but I kind of enjoyed sitting there watching the two guys struggle. and I probably could have got some strings and levels out and done my own alignment but it was nice to see my buddy again that works at the shop and have him put it on the computer for $79.
With all that said there couldn't be 52 wires? Like don't we all know what a deck of cards looks like and they're all numbered and colored?
I think if I was to say my hobby was knitting and all I did was all the same easy knitting stitches that one day I wouldn't want to learn how to do the hard ones and be able to do real cool stuff? I guess that would I be a pretty good knitter...
Now make jokes with your precious "time"
 
I'd rather spend my precious time playing with my family and hobbies. If I made tons of money at work and could afford someone else to work on it then I would be paying somebody to do my hobby?
 
j par said:
Buy, buy, buy....
My "home made" wiring IS nice looking clean and I'm very much smiling...
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Don,t get offended.

We all have different tastes. Care to show the finished product from the pic last night?
 
You're allowed to like whatever part of owning these cars floats your boat.:)
If that's rewiring everything the same color and tucking it away, more power to you for doing it. :thumbsup:
Let's let that run the other way too. Everyone has their own reasons for owning these cars, their own preferences on how they want them modified, and their own limitiing factors.
1969383S said:
Don,t get offended.

We all have different tastes.
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Exactly.
 
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