Agreed. I love it when people say, "I want $20,000, These cars go for $80,000 when they are done." I tell them, "And your car is at least $75,00 away from being don. So I can't very well give you $20,00 for it, can I?" The absolute worst case is when an elderly widow is selling her deceased husband's car, and a grandson or nephew has convinced her it is worth WAY more than it is. Been there.